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Skibum513
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« on: October 06, 2014, 12:04:01 PM »

Hey guys so my engine $h!t the bed and i have a cracked piston in my 1.8t  audi tt  Angry. I am looking at a few different options at this point try to rebuild my engine, buy a 2.0 tsi and swap that in, or swap in a 2.5 i5. I know it will be expensive but i would like to keep price on the lower side. I also have a Borg Warner t3/t04e sitting at home I would like to put on whatever choice I make, looking for 300-350hp. for the 2.0 and 2.5 i would need a new ecu and wiring harness as well as motor mounts. 2.0 seems like a solid option but the 2.5 sounds sweet and is half the price. If anyone has done any of these swaps or has any helpful information that would be great. I'm leaning towards a 2.0 or 2.5 but if you think the 1.8t is a better choice let me know.

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 12:54:38 PM »

What chassis?

How have you managed to crack a piston but not snap a rod?  (I'm assuming they're OE rods?).  If you've smashed a piston at less than 350 brake I'd be amazed.

That said, I've got AUM pistons (with a 19mm wrist pin) that you can have if you pay postage!

The 1.8t block is good, parts are easy, you've got the mounts.  Either way, any engine you pick is going to need a make over.  New bearings, honed bores, new rings, headgasket, etc.

Then custom downpipe for whatever turbo you put on it.

The 2.0 TFSI is still in development and parts are expensive, so the 1.8t would be better IMO.

I'd say 1.8t and TD05..
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 01:12:17 PM »

Ok thanks and so far i only have the head pulled off and there is a nice crack across the piston on cylinder 2.  Not sure if the rods are damaged (car still ran just ran rough and compression sucked) but if i rebuild it i would be upgrading the rods too. And the strangest part was at the time it started driving like crap I had my car flashed back to stock to pass emissions  Huh. and Its a mk1 audi tt
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2014, 01:18:58 PM »

That's weird man.

I know the 2.0 TFSI will bolt up with a little mount changes but the 2.5; not so sure on..

I'd go either 1.8 or 2.0.

But if you go 2.0, you need the loom, ECU, and all the rest of it. 

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Gentlemen,
I humbly apologize for the lack of being able to supply these of the course of the last 6 months. There were a few issues with supply from DM Forged which I will let them address but we spent the better part of last week and this week ordering supplies and boxing these up in as they usually come from INA Engineering Inc.
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• DM Forged 4340 Chromoly steel forged “H-Beam” connecting rods
DMF-H-4-144|25|19-T or DMF-H-4-144|25|20-S Connecting rods w/ ARP 2000 Bolts
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• (13) Exhaust manifold nuts
• Victor Reinz oil pan silicone paste
• Gates Performance timing belt
• HEPU Metal Impellar Water Pump
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• KS connecting rod bearings
• (1) MANN W719/30 Oil Filter
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Pretty cheap for a forged engine..
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2014, 05:34:26 AM »

ive never had to swap my engine before, so idk what is easiest as far as mounting.
i just wanted to know if you were thinking the NA 2.5 or the ttrs 2.5 with med9?
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2014, 07:00:08 AM »

I was thinking the 2.5 na and turbo it. cant afford the 2.5 ttrs engine as fun as it would be. After some more research though it seems that the wiring situation is a nightmare for that swap so i'm thinking 1.8t rebuild at the moment.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2014, 07:40:19 AM »

The 1.8t seems to be the bang/buck engine atm.

In my experience turboing a na engine is expensive and unreliable 
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