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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 01:45:40 PM »

If your PCB's layout match this one then you may need to remove this resistor to get boot mode to work. I have had ME7.1.x ECUs that won't go into boot mode until it is removed.
http://wiki.obdtuning.com/?title=Bild:VAG_ME_711_platine2.jpg
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 04:38:30 PM »

That doesn't appear to be an issue on either of the ECU's I'm messing with.

Would there be any reason to think I may have more success using the bench flash setup?  Separate power supply, wiring, etc.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 05:06:46 PM »

I wouldn't think so, but who knows.

I still think it's a cable driver conflict or a problem with the Galletto cable driver. If possible, try installing the Galletto driver on a computer that has never had another cable driver installed on it.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 05:24:49 PM »

I agree. Driver problem, not ECU problem.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2011, 07:38:34 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions, if I'm going to start spending a lot of time trying to find a possible solution it's nice to start off in the most likely direction.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 09:02:21 AM »

Have you tried completely removing the ECU from power for an extended period (1hr+)?

I've had a couple of ECUs that won't go into boot mode unless they are disconnected from power for a while.  Then, if I mess up and miss boot mode on the first attempt after reconnecting to power I have to remove it from power again for an hour or so before I try again.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 10:53:10 AM »

I had this issue. I ended up having to count to 10 after key on with the pin shorted to ground then releasing before it would go into boot mode. If it did not, it was a +12v removal completely then try again before it would work.

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2013, 06:02:39 AM »

Greetings from Russia! Cheesy

I'm a newbie in chip-tuning, trying to mess with ME 7.1.1 from a cayenne turbo (Bosch hw number is 0261207696).
For now I'm trying to back up the contents of 800bb (main) ROM. The main problem I'm currently having is: it simply won't go in bootmode (or so my Galletto 1260 clone reports). I've tried all kinds of bench harnesses:
http://wiki.obdtuning.com/images/0/03/VAG_ME_7_Skizze1.jpg - this one with "ignition switch" on pins 62/21, as some have suggested.
or the same one, but with switch on pin3 as others have said that's the proper way instead.
I tried a bigger resistor for the boot pin probe: 10K, tried a different ground point for the boot probe (alligator clamp on the ecu board, instead of the PSU ground).
Tried holding pin24 grounded for longer time (up to 10-15 seconds).
I even tried desoldering the bridge on the back of PCB: http://wiki.obdtuning.com/images/7/7f/VAG_ME_711_platine3.jpg

Nothing led to success, unfortunately.

So, trying to determine whether my Galletto is faulty: for how long should ME 7.1.1 stay in boot mode after it's triggered?
If I try checking the ECU with MPPS v12 clone, I can't connect to it for ~10-15 secs after I start the ECU up with pin 24 grounded. Does this mean that it actually goes in boot mode and then defaults to "normal operation"?

I also tried different PC, tried clean VM with WinXP, so I'm fairly sure it's not the software issue.

Also, I actually have a chip programmer for the 800bb, so the last resort would be to solder out the ROM and then solder it back, - but that's really a last resort.
Please help? Smiley


EDIT: Oh, I also tried reading ROM contents with the MPPS, but it somehow reads only 402 kilobytes out of 1Mb (I believe?) ROM, which is why I'm trying to do it in boot mode.
EDIT2: Just tried the following version of Galletto software: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0 with two different cables, still a no-go, - so the problem seems to be in the ECU itself. Sad Anything else I can try?

EDIT3 (final?): So, apparently it's the problem with Galletto: MPPS v12 worked in boot mode. Setup that worked for me:
http://wiki.obdtuning.com/images/0/03/VAG_ME_7_Skizze1.jpg with "ignition switch" wired before pins 62/21. Also, resistor on the board's back is desoldered (should I put it in after I'm done?) - but I believe it could have worked prior to its removal.

The reason I can't get the whole 1Mb readout is because of the "noread" flag present in the firmware: MPPS software honors it, but there are ways to defeat it.

TL;DR version: Galletto is shit and doesn't work (maybe that's just me, though).
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2013, 02:40:19 PM »

thought id share some thoughts/information since this got me very frusterated a while back..

i tried galletto myself, and yeah, the software works, but the GUI and translations are totally CRAP..!

i finally found out how to flash both eeprom and flash with this thing.. using either the galletto-cable OR a normal dumb blue "made in china" 232R cable after dissassembly and mod to the galletto binary.
(yeah, ONE cable for everything related to ME7, finally!)

so, i usually do bootmode while in the car, and what ive found works 110% is this:

1. ignition off
2. ground pin 24 on the ecu, preferrably from pin1 on the ecu connector.(main ECU ground)
3. turn ignition key on and after 3-4 seconds, release the ground from pin 24.

4. ecu should now be in bootmode according to the galletto software itself, AND probably everything you have ever read, including and all guides etc on the internet.. WRONG..!

5. turn the ignition key OFF and viola, you are now in bootmode and galletto, nefmoto bootmode and even the eeprom-tool works to both read and write.


this method have worked on every ecu i have ever encountered so far (20+ different me7.1, 7.5, 7.5.5 etc)

hope someone cares to try this  Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2013, 11:12:03 AM »

i will say that my experience with galletto was ok, software and cable eventually did work after some tinkering like you said, but mine ended up starting to give me improper reads, then finally fried out of nowhere, i use mpps now for bootmode flashes, seems to be very consistent, and pretty fast if your in bench mode, am i reading your post right sn00k? i do have the software still, and a dumb blue cable, was the modification a pain?
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2013, 04:05:28 PM »

id say the mod to use a normal "blue" dumb cable is quite easy.. requires a tool to read the correct ID from your cable, and then some tinkering.. perhaps not something to be discoussed here.. works like a charm tho.



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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2013, 04:11:44 PM »

id say the mod to use a normal "blue" dumb cable is quite easy.. requires a tool to read the correct ID from your cable, and then some tinkering.. perhaps not something to be discoussed here.. works like a charm tho.





There's a sticky about it. "galletto software edited with proper english" in the flashing/chipping section.
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2013, 08:08:22 PM »

that is pretty nifty, thanks for the info
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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2013, 05:47:07 AM »

There's a sticky about it. "galletto software edited with proper english" in the flashing/chipping section.

ah, its even posted here now, nice! Smiley

i guess cracking a software for a cloned hardware, to exchange with another cloned hardware, is ok..  Roll Eyes
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