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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2014, 11:19:05 AM »
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Why would there be gain from change? Don't say there is not because there is.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2014, 11:22:03 AM »
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There is no torque intervention, its a stock 3.0l just kfmiop changed and kfmirl
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2014, 11:40:05 AM »
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why dont you make a maf log of stock and a maf log of "tuned" to prove the engine is flowing more air?
i agree with everyone else. without any other changes, you arent making any more power.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2014, 12:18:24 PM »
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Ok will do, but one problem I don't have the 3.0slow on hand. Can i try doing this to my 1.8t to prove this or does it have to be 3.0?
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2014, 01:19:20 PM »
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Ok will do, but one problem I don't have the 3.0slow on hand. Can i try doing this to my 1.8t to prove this or does it have to be 3.0?
NA vs FI. Big difference. Look, you only have 3 parameters. Boost, timing, fuel. If you can't change boost (N/A) you are changing timing or fuel.. Altering IOP/IRL shouldn't change timing unless there is torque intervention. |
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2014, 05:22:16 PM »
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So i can't compare until I get the car, well that might take a while. I will prove to you that there can be power gain from kfmiop and kfmirl from a N/A car mark my word! Back on the question of tuning a file that you can't compare a defined bin to. What is in your mind the easiest way to define an undefined car?
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2014, 05:24:03 PM »
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NA vs FI. Big difference.
Look, you only have 3 parameters. Boost, timing, fuel.
If you can't change boost (N/A) you are changing timing or fuel..
Altering IOP/IRL shouldn't change timing unless there is torque intervention.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2014, 05:25:09 PM »
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Camshaft overlap, intake runner activation, and torque request should be added to that list.
By torque request you mean throttle plate angle? |
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2014, 05:51:17 PM »
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By torque request you mean throttle plate angle?
Well, specifically KFPED. IMO, dicking with IRL is just backwards here. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2014, 05:52:52 PM »
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Well, specifically KFPED.
KFPED can limit torque in only two ways: throttle plate angle, torque intervention (that is to say, timing). Suggesting that you need only open the throttle plate to 100% to get more HP out of a NA motor is ... I can't even find an adjective for it. |
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2014, 06:32:36 PM »
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KFPED can limit torque in only two ways: throttle plate angle, torque intervention (that is to say, timing).
Suggesting that you need only open the throttle plate to 100% to get more HP out of a NA motor is ... I can't even find an adjective for it.
I wasn't saying you'll get more peak power  Simply stating that you can change the characteristics of the car by altering it. Tuning isn't JUST about peak numbers after all. It's about enhancing the driving experience. |
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2014, 06:34:57 PM »
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I was messing with the torque map to see if gain occurred which torque makes horse power
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2014, 06:45:18 PM »
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This is the context Heh. Fair enough. |
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