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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #45 on: January 02, 2016, 07:58:34 AM »

From beemer FR

WDKUGDN 100% for disable the function.
Application: throttle blade angle at begin ps/pvdk >= 0.95. ps = intake manifold pressure
pvdk = pressure upstreams of throttle blade

Can only see it being useful for custom work in that area? you'll need a map sensor to calibate it

more:

APP FUEDK 6.20 Application hint
KLAF: see calculation of engine load
KFWDKMSN: inverse of KFMSNWDK
Initial Values:
CWMDAPP= wdksp w=
0 wdksgv w, sofern nmot>0
2 FPWDKAPP(wped w)
4 WDKSAPP, sofern nmot>0
FPWDKAPP wped w [%] 1.5 6.25 11.0 15.63 23.43 31.25 39.0 46
wdksv w [%] 1.7 7.1 11.16 15.25 2.0 31.0 39.0 47
WDKSAPP 2 %
WDKUGDN 100% for disable the function.
Application: throttle blade angle at begin ps/pvdk >= 0.95. ps = int
pvdk = p
TFUPS: 0 s
TFUPI: 2 s
DPUPS: >=250 hPa
TWDKSV: psspvdk w 0.990 0.992 0.996 0.998 1.0 1.02
0.01 0.1 0.15 0.2 0.25 0.0
NDRLS: -500%/s


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #46 on: January 02, 2016, 12:37:22 PM »

Quote from: Mocke on January 02, 2016, 02:58:42 AM

This is org 551R file.
Something i am missing here?

Yes. The ability to look past simple map changes and into the ASM where this hack is executed.

0x8E75E


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #47 on: January 02, 2016, 12:57:16 PM »

Quote from: ddillenger on January 01, 2016, 12:36:09 PM

Here you go.

yoink. thanks dd.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #48 on: January 02, 2016, 01:29:15 PM »

Quote from: SB_GLI on January 02, 2016, 12:57:16 PM

yoink. thanks dd.

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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #49 on: January 02, 2016, 02:50:23 PM »

Quote from: ddillenger on January 02, 2016, 12:37:22 PM

Yes. The ability to look past simple map changes and into the ASM where this hack is executed.

0x8E75E

I will give you that one, Thanx for the adress.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #50 on: January 02, 2016, 03:24:08 PM »

Quote from: Mocke on January 02, 2016, 02:50:23 PM

I will give you that one, Thanx for the adress.

Just fucking with you. Sometimes my replies come across as assholish. It wasn't the intention.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #51 on: January 02, 2016, 03:36:46 PM »

Quote from: ddillenger on January 02, 2016, 03:24:08 PM

Just fucking with you. Sometimes my replies come across as assholish. It wasn't the intention.

You are trying too hard. I know you are a teddy bear Wink

. I have seen the line but i did not know what it represents
You must explain now when you have offended me.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #52 on: January 02, 2016, 04:38:55 PM »

Quote from: dream3R on January 02, 2016, 07:58:34 AM

Can only see it being useful for custom work in that area

With what wdkugdn does in there, I would say changing the psi that it is dealing with is custom work.

I would agree that messing with it might not be necessary for most and would only be a minor change anyway.
But, the further your cracking psi deviates above the calibration, the more important it may become.

If I get bored I may have to try the 100% thing just to see what it does.
My guess is as long as wdkugdn is larger than the actual point of restriction, the only thing it might affect is wear and tear on the tbody.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2016, 05:59:02 PM »

Quote from: zillarob on January 02, 2016, 04:38:55 PM

that's my thoughts too as mentioned. The most important part imo is the axis recalculated. I went from 0.4 bar to 1bar actuator and it was sweet as mentioned 5120 PID dialled in and it limped 69 miles home with the IC to the pipe off lol steady 60 mph.

Bigger/custom intake manifolds perhaps? I'll trace the code tomorrow to see if it sheds any more light.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #54 on: January 02, 2016, 06:05:26 PM »

Quote from: ddillenger on January 02, 2016, 03:24:08 PM

Just fucking with you. Sometimes my replies come across as assholish. It wasn't the intention.

You must never work in IT lol


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #55 on: January 03, 2016, 07:45:07 AM »

Quote from: dream3R on January 02, 2016, 06:05:26 PM

You must never work in IT lol

Ha, I know from first hand experience, that IT folk don't get jokes.


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #56 on: January 03, 2016, 10:53:52 AM »

Quote from: SB_GLI on January 03, 2016, 07:45:07 AM

Ha, I know from first hand experience, that IT folk don't get jokes.

True


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #57 on: February 09, 2016, 07:05:05 PM »

Quote from: ddillenger on January 02, 2016, 12:37:22 PM

Yes. The ability to look past simple map changes and into the ASM where this hack is executed.

0x8E75E

I would like to use that workaround on the 5120 551R file. Is it possible to transfer to another bin? Just 0x8E75E-0x8E76D....? Theres more than the stuff at 0x8E75E modified in comparison to a stock file so i was a little gun shy of trying it.
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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #58 on: February 09, 2016, 07:07:00 PM »

Quote from: giles92 on February 09, 2016, 07:05:05 PM

Yes if you disassemble both and the code is the same


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	Re: KFVPDKSD/E and WDKUGDN throttle tuning near wg cracking pressure « Reply #59 on: February 09, 2016, 07:10:48 PM »

Quote from: zillarob on January 02, 2016, 01:48:50 AM

The way I look at is:

If 30% plate is the lowest point where 6psi of airmass can flow without restriction at 3000rpm,

then turning the boost up to 12psi at 3000rpm will cause the plate to become a restriction due to the increased airmass flowing.

This increased airmass would require the blade to be opened slightly to not be a restriction.

I dont know though, maybe the larger airmass is packed down to the same volume as it was before and doesnt have a problem getting through the same plate angle.

*numbers are not accurate and just throw in as placeholders*

I looked into this recently and the code equates for that


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