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« on: December 30, 2015, 11:21:02 AM »

Maybe you guys can give me some insight on this. I hope this is posted in the right place.

I've been dealing with some issues with my 1.8t for a while now and cannot figure out what the F*** is going on.

At part throttle in pretty much any gear (less severe feeling in 4th and 5th but still present on the boost gauge) the boost tends to drop suddenly right around 0" Hg 0 psi down to 5-10" hg and then pops back up, all without any influence from me on the accelerator pedal.

I took a look at all the blocks related to MAF and pre cat O2 (002, 030,032,033 and 034) and they all checked out. Idle trim is rich (-.4%) and multiplicative is also rich (-1.6%) but not out of spec by a long shot.
Pre cat O2 binary is as it should be: 011-111 fluctuating. Heater works.
Maf is 3.82 g/s at idle so in spec.
O2 sensor control is a bit low (-1.6%-4% fluctuating) and returns to -1.6% as a general baseline
O2 passed aging test with a 1.32 (original with 180,000 miles, not bad!)

What else should i test to figure out where this is coming from? and what is happening? Am I missing something?

Also, upon deceleration, every time on deceleration, the revs hit idle (aprox 800) and then bounce up to about 1200 and then return to 800. What the hell is with this?

List of things:
-No rear O2, catalyst is gone, straight pipe. Tuned out O2 properly, plus issue was present long before catalyst got removed.
-Recently replaced fuel pump
-Recently replaced ignition coil harness
-MAF is non OEM aftermarket
-Cone filter, silicone TIP
-2.0TFSI solenoid diverter valve, tested and working properly. Problem was present long before installation of DV
-VTA CCV, no PCV system anymore. Problem was present before this.
-Full ss 2.25 magnaflow catback, doubt this has any influence.
-No SAI, no evap. problem existed before this
-AWP engine code but converted to bolt down coil packs.
-Junkyard hitachi coil packs, still good though, i've felt coil packs go bad, this doesn't feel like that. Can they gradually go bad?
-WOT and boost on full is fine. If anything, I over boost at 14 psi on gauge sometimes (stock tune with fueling and boost, just emissions changed)
-CLALSH, CLAHSHE, CLAHSH, CDHSH, CDHSHE, CDLASH, CDLSH, CDLDP, CDTES, CWDLSAHK, SRYLS, CDKAT,MSLUB, GWPLDU, SVDLDUVS, KFNWSE changed

-Long ago, when engine was stock, problem still existed, minus rpm float, that began recently, not marked by any mod or pattern that I can discern.

I also have two codes for random multiple cylinder misfires and cylinder 2 misfire but that has changed before in the past to cylinder 1, 3 and 4 based on how/when I clear codes.


Help me out guys!! I'm stumped!! Trying to save a bit of cash before I go whole hog and just replace the MAF, O2, injectors, coil packs, FPR, MAP and plugs with new oem.

edit: log for reference
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 11:45:46 AM »

What does "HG" stand for in your world?
Why no me7logs?
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 11:52:22 AM »

VWVortex cross post.  It's more appropriate here to yell at you for no logs.  ME7Logger logs or bust.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 11:58:47 AM »

Inches of mercury. Sorry perhaps abbreviation was wrong. hg HG Hg hG, not sure. Measurement of vacuum. Gauge transfers from vacuum to pressure in scale instead of going from negative psi to positive.

I will get a log in a minute. Charging my computer. Figured logs would be more informative.

I have been having a huge bitch of a time getting ME7Logger to work fluidly so a while ago I put it aside for a bit. I'll pick it up again soon to see if I can get it working. I tried taking a part throttle log with it a while ago and It just refused to initialize and start logging.

I can log with VAG-Com though in the meantime. I'm not too adept at logging and interpreting yet.
Aside from the blocks I've mentioned, what else do you recommend I log?

Also, yes, I realize this is a cross post Tongue I'm pretty desperate. spent a LOT of money on this issue so far and its been here for about 50-60,000 miles…

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 12:57:57 PM »

I know this isnt the place for this but can I at least get this application working so I can take some damn logs? What is going on here?

VCDS cable in dumb mode.
Blue KKl cable
Vag tacho cable
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 01:22:21 PM »

seems like FTDI drivers are not installed.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 01:40:11 PM »

Ok. Ill try again. Ive installed them multiple times for multiple cables
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 02:56:20 PM »

Ok good news, I got the blue kkl cable to work. FTDI drivers were there just had to switch from usb to com3 and to 125000 baud to avoid another error but I finally have a log.

By the way SB_GLI, your VisualME7logger is a thing of beauty. I've been waiting for a logging utility with recording and live logging capabilities. And I noticed EEPROM utilities?? Gotta check that out. Bravo, bravo.

I did some part throttle driving in the beginning up to 4th gear, then did WOT in 2nd to redline, then did some more part-throttle driving. I haven't had some time to acquaint myself with the livelogger yet but I put airflow up on the graph as I drove.


Note: CSV is 2Mb so I had to zip it to upload.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 04:04:06 PM »

What is your IRL and IOP?
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 05:47:31 PM »

Broad and smooth, I've changed nothing in those categories. Sorry, not so helpful, i still dont know too much regarding irl/iop

Tune is stock other than emissions changes.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 05:08:21 AM »

Does it do it on a stock file?
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2015, 08:26:18 AM »

Not sure. I'll flash and check
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2015, 09:12:19 AM »

Fueling request is shit.  Too lean early, too rich late.

See attached screenshot.  You need to work on BTS fueling.

To keep it simple for starters, you may want to consider numbing BTS fueling by increasing TABGBTS and modifying LAMFA to control your fuel request based on drivers request.

EDIT: This looks like a stock boost profile...  I think you have unnaturally high calculated EGTs (perhaps due to the o2 spacer you are using) that's causing this.  You would need to log the correct variables to confirm though.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2015, 12:59:14 PM »

I didnt use a spacer and rear O2 is removed.
What are the correct variables I need to log to find out about the unnaturally high egt's?
The boost drop still occurs with oem bin.

Could the fueling issue be because of the straight 3"-2.25" exhaust and cone filter? Perhaps vvt turning on, kfnwse?

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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 10:11:15 PM »

Also, wont numbing BTS increase EGT's?
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