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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2016, 08:15:28 AM »

Great info, thanks! Now the only problem is the unavailability of the RR kit  Embarrassed
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2016, 04:00:16 PM »

If it's on the bench, make sure you power pin 121. I have a bench harness that works great with every ecu, but it only uses the large plug. Could not get the RR to boot. Ever. Spent a lot of time trying different things. Powering 121 made it finally mostly work.
thanks, pin 121 was the right hint! the ecu is booting now!
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2016, 02:05:14 PM »

The large ic in the middle of the board was bad. It would load/boot until the voltage regulator got hot. If you looked closely, you could see a small area in the middle that looked melted. The IC has been replaced, unit works fine now. Well with TPRT it does. Smiley  prj is the only person I know that has it working mostly issue free using WinOLS. prj, are you using emutility to upload to the emulator?
EmUtility + my tool.

So that ic could be why moates stopped selling RR?

Tunerpro supports 2 x ostrich to emulate 16-bit ECUs. Can it be done on a ME7 ecu?
The reason it is unavailable is that it did not sell a lot (they said it was by far their least popular project) and while they need to make more it just got pushed to the bottom of the priority list.
This also drove the board cost very high.
They will make it again, the question is when...

I've had RR in my daily drive for a couple of years now and I removed all checksum checks and also modified/decreased TNLSGM  from a couple of hours to 10seconds.
Even though I did not find all my notes I'm 99% sure that TNLSGM was my solution. Numerous hours spent to find the solution.
I've ran 10sec for a long time now. 2sec was to short, the ecu needs more time to finish the shutdown procedure, like write eeprom and such.

This gives a clean startup every time you enter your car and turn key. And close to 100% boot consistency.
Since I didn't find all notes I don't remember what implications could follow, you will never run in nachlauf again and it probably affects milage during startup.

prj, I think this could cure your boot problem too.

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Delay time for ECU shut-off


I will try, though it is irrelevant as I use the emulator only for tuning cars and then I put the original ECU back in.
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2016, 02:18:02 AM »

great to hear that they will produce the roadrunner again.

btw: I got the roadrunner to work in a M 3.8.1. VR6 ecu emulating a plcc44 27C1024 eprom ( self-build custom adapter plcc44 / 28f800 with byte swapping ).
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2016, 12:02:48 AM »

I have used it in a M3.8.3 instead of the 29F200 many times.
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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2016, 06:55:57 AM »

Could either of you post a pic of the adapter you used?
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2016, 08:43:12 AM »

M3.8.3 works fine with moates byteswap adapter

I'l post later a pic of my selfmade PLCC44 adapter
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2016, 02:06:05 AM »

You don't need a moates byteswap adapter. Just use my tool for monitoring and check the byteswap option.
Done.

Also when emulating a 29F200 don't forget to choose "4x" in the tool's stacker.
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2016, 03:30:43 AM »

I sent them an email at the start of this year asking whether there was the possibility of running another batch... They said around 6-8 months time, but were quite vague on it.. I guess if a load of people contacted them and asked, we might get somewhere.

I'd be very tempted by one for use in an EDC15C... I just hope I can figure how to disable checksums in the software...
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« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2016, 02:42:32 PM »

I have talked to them over the phone and they said they have had tons of interest lately and that it is due to exposure on nefmoto mostly and my tool linking it to OLS.
They have a lot of work right now, so no firm date when...
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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2016, 07:50:07 AM »

Sounds promising
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2016, 03:37:03 AM »

Could PROMJet emulator from emutec.com work as a substitute for the RR?
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2016, 11:02:03 AM »

Could PROMJet emulator from emutec.com work as a substitute for the RR?

Yes, looks like that would work. Looks like you'd need the 40/42 pin DIP adapter
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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2016, 12:17:06 PM »

That emulator does not look like it is for sale.
Lots of bold claims on their website, but no one I can find carries it and there is no price list whatsoever anywhere on their website.
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2016, 03:38:31 PM »

roadrunner will be available in october again (according to moates website)
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