MirXas
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« Reply #285 on: July 07, 2022, 11:15:48 AM »
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Hey. Is there a table for clutch "grabbing" RPM vs throttle pedal % when taking off from a standstill ?
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« Reply #286 on: July 07, 2022, 01:08:55 PM »
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Yes.
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« Reply #287 on: July 07, 2022, 01:35:20 PM »
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Hey. Is there a table for clutch "grabbing" RPM vs throttle pedal % when taking off from a standstill ?
Did you redo all the adaption after you started doing all this flashing? Try going through the process in VCDS and then see if that fixes it before you chase other tables. |
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MirXas
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« Reply #288 on: July 08, 2022, 11:49:01 AM »
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Yes, adaptations change nothing. I've read about the same (I believe) issue in other posts here. Its a very annoying, laggy takeoff. Doesnt matter how much throttle you give it, you just can not quickly "jump" from a standstill. I'd like to try modding said table, so it starts engaging clutches at a higher RPM when the engine has more torque. But I'm probably thinking wrong. What you think ? I can do logs, just dont know what to log.
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« Reply #289 on: August 10, 2022, 09:56:55 AM »
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Are any of you working with braking downshifts? I'm trying to learn what table/variables adjust the downshift RPM in response to braking force.  |
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« Reply #290 on: September 30, 2022, 05:07:26 PM »
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Hi! I need help setting up the dq250. I have a powerful 380hp engine, but the gearbox starts to cut the boost and close the throttle when switching to 5th gear. I will pay who can help me
Detected CU type: DSG DQ250F
Соединение ОК
HW: 02E927770AL F100004
SW: 02E300058P
SW версия: 3515
Кодирование: 0018
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« Reply #291 on: November 16, 2022, 01:25:08 PM »
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I have on my car Golf 5 GTI 2007
DSG HW 02E927770AE and SW 02E300043Q
Can someone help me with a map pack ?
Thank you
Did you find map pack or damos Because it tried to use ols hi/low but with no luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #292 on: December 07, 2022, 03:55:41 PM »
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Yes, adaptations change nothing. I've read about the same (I believe) issue in other posts here. Its a very annoying, laggy takeoff. Doesnt matter how much throttle you give it, you just can not quickly "jump" from a standstill. I'd like to try modding said table, so it starts engaging clutches at a higher RPM when the engine has more torque. But I'm probably thinking wrong. What you think ? I can do logs, just dont know what to log.
Did you manage to find any info on this map. I would like a bit more rpm on take off. It's too aggressive at the minute |
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« Reply #293 on: December 14, 2022, 05:20:41 AM »
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Yes, adaptations change nothing. I've read about the same (I believe) issue in other posts here. Its a very annoying, laggy takeoff. Doesnt matter how much throttle you give it, you just can not quickly "jump" from a standstill. I'd like to try modding said table, so it starts engaging clutches at a higher RPM when the engine has more torque. But I'm probably thinking wrong. What you think ? I can do logs, just dont know what to log.
There are several maps related to stall speeds based on driving mode and temperatures. I believe changing the lower values on these will allow more rpm on takeoff but not had chance to road test yet |
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« Reply #294 on: December 15, 2022, 10:06:42 AM »
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What i felt is this:
All things depends only the ecu file without torque (prj said in a post this). If the Torque/load is not not what dsg expected ..........we are fucked.
I try from 2 years to make my me7.5 with dsg dq250 to works right but......without chance. If i make to wqork in drive mode not work in sports or manualy , and inverse.
The biggest shit/problem is when the dsg changes gears, it felt like throttle cut but on the log don;t look like this, maybe DV open very much evenif the rpm between dsg don't drop so much.
And this happen in partial throttle not WOT!
I hope i help with my experience!
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« Reply #295 on: December 15, 2022, 01:28:02 PM »
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What i felt is this:
All things depends only the ecu file without torque (prj said in a post this). If the Torque/load is not not what dsg expected ..........we are fucked.
I try from 2 years to make my me7.5 with dsg dq250 to works right but......without chance. If i make to wqork in drive mode not work in sports or manualy , and inverse.
The biggest shit/problem is when the dsg changes gears, it felt like throttle cut but on the log don;t look like this, maybe DV open very much evenif the rpm between dsg don't drop so much.
And this happen in partial throttle not WOT!
I hope i help with my experience!
Have you dsg converted a manual car? |
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« Reply #296 on: December 17, 2022, 07:16:54 AM »
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What i felt is this:
All things depends only the ecu file without torque (prj said in a post this). If the Torque/load is not not what dsg expected ..........we are fucked.
I try from 2 years to make my me7.5 with dsg dq250 to works right but......without chance. If i make to wqork in drive mode not work in sports or manualy , and inverse.
The biggest shit/problem is when the dsg changes gears, it felt like throttle cut but on the log don;t look like this, maybe DV open very much evenif the rpm between dsg don't drop so much.
And this happen in partial throttle not WOT!
I hope i help with my experience!
What ecu file are you using ? 032hf works decent |
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« Reply #297 on: December 19, 2022, 09:04:13 AM »
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Yes, dsg converted to a manual car.
I tried 032hf too, and it make the same , i think is not from what kind of file i use, it is something from 5120hack or dsg not like something when change gears with accel pedal less than 60-70% between 4000-5000 rpm. The dsg is a petrol one so must work ok on 1.8t. I changed the rpm shifts points too but the same problem.
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« Reply #298 on: January 21, 2023, 01:36:41 PM »
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Hey all
I have a question (maybe noob?) regarding DSG tuning.
Right now i am running a mk5 Golf GTI edition 30 with ~ 300 hp.
Power output is nice. My load curve is higher compared to the Audi S3 which has stock from factory 350 Nm. In my PolarFIS display it shows me fullload sweaps max. 350Nm. The labels in my ECU for horsepower and torque output to „kombiausgabe“ are of course raised.
Raising the load to higher than the Audi S3 (which has 350Nm), is the calculated and reported torque from the ECU to the TCU so accurate that my DSG (stock, nothing tuned) already stops me to not going higher than the 350Nm, or is the torque output value just bullshit?
KFMIRL and KFMIOP are linear.
Thx in advance
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« Reply #299 on: January 22, 2023, 05:25:20 AM »
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Torque = (miist_w - mdverl_w)*MDNORM
miist_w has a maximum value of 100%.
If your MDNORM is 350, then you can never go over 350 even if mdverl was 0%.
In case of DSG KFMIRL and KFMIOP don't have to be just linear, KFMIRL actually has to have correct miist_w (inner torque) filled for every operating point.
Can be done on dyno, preferrably an engine dyno, but normal one works too if you record mdverl_w at same time.
And if you are capping out MDNORM, then you need to increase it, but that means rescaling the whole map.
Now, if you increase it a little, you won't have a lot of problems, but if you increase it a lot (and rescale IRL/IOP of course), then all your idle control, DASHPOT, ARMD and LSD is gonna go to shit. Have fun calibrating that.
If your KFMIRL is linear as you say (and looks like a line, not a curve), then you have no problem yet.
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