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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2021, 10:45:29 AM »

https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#DTC_disables

You need to be more specific, you'll get the dtc's with no parts on it, sort them as per wiki/numerous threads, sort eskonf - done. You are using a definition file right?

Yes, using one from here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=491.0;attach=522
and here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=491.0;attach=509

Shall go through the s4wiki link, thanks I didn't see that particular page.
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2021, 11:41:41 AM »


Shall go through the s4wiki link, thanks I didn't see that particular page.


I hope you mean section anyway
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2021, 01:40:47 AM »

Still very new to WinOLS & TunerPro, so youtubed it.
Found out there's me7eskonf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z9U8JBFlH8

Can't find it here though. Is there a trusted source for DL, or even a github available?
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2021, 02:47:26 AM »

Still very new to WinOLS & TunerPro, so youtubed it.
Found out there's me7eskonf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z9U8JBFlH8

Can't find it here though. Is there a trusted source for DL, or even a github available?
You don't need it. Find KFKHFM (easy map) few places before that in hex is your ESKONF. Should be able to recognize it.
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2021, 02:50:06 AM »

Quick example from a stock ME7.5 bin

edit: excuse me for my mistake address is 0x10BF4
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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2021, 02:57:31 AM »

Quick example from a stock ME7.5 bin

edit: excuse me for my mistake address is 0x10BF4


You have too much faith in me knowing what I should look for!
Using the 8D0-551L from s4wiki files & xdf from the previous post in WinOLS.
When I drag xdf brings up weblink for plugins, as using demo version.

Tried using Turboman's vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dkuoFh2foQ&t=81s
but have no refence to match it to.
I really am a FNG to all this.

Also thought ME7.1 for my 4b0-551G ecu with 8d0-551L map. Would they look the same?
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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2021, 03:12:31 AM »

This is what I get when I do a search for:
MLHFM
ESKONF
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2021, 03:17:51 AM »

And 10BF4 in HxD.
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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2021, 03:22:39 AM »

https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ME7.1_bit_pairs

From my own ME7.5 "knowledge". See what is installed and what is not. Calculate using binary > hex this should give you a pattern to look for. Atleast that's how I would go about it. And we know it is before KFKHFM, so i believe this method to be quite bullet-proof.

Though i'm not sure if XX would be 10 or 11 but you'll find out fast enough. If you look for it you'll also find ME7ESKONF on here, i must have it somewhere on my PC.

No- that address doesn't match with your 2.7T ME7.1. It comes from my own ME7.5 1.8T. Your ESKONF is twice as large.

Read wiki and it will start to make sense.
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2021, 09:12:09 AM »

Thank you Sandstorm3k for the pointers. I'm learning slowly but surely.

Not sure how to contact s4wiki admin/mods, but https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ME7.1_bit_pairs
is missing Byte 9 for ME7.1

Also anyone know what the "ZUE: Ignition coil" refers to?
Original 3 pin coils with coil packs thingies on top of airbox (for 2.7t's)
or the 'RS6' coils or whatever people call them, with modded loom and 4 wire coils.

with my decoding of the Hex (Technically Theka Hexidecimal  [10+6 decimal, not 6 decimal!!]) shows EV2 & EV4 'not installed' which is ONE HELL of a coincidence since I have had misfires from those two cylinders.

Obviously no rush in responding as running original 4B0-551G ECU, but hope to switch over to 8D0-551L without any DTC's.

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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2021, 11:03:06 AM »

Not sure how to contact s4wiki admin/mods, but https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ME7.1_bit_pairs
is missing Byte 9 for ME7.1

Its a wiki; you can edit it yourself. Are you familiar with wikipedia?

Anyway, that looks like a typo. Also ME7.1 only has 6 cyl, not 8, so probably its doubly wrong.

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Also anyone know what the "ZUE: Ignition coil" refers to?

Quite literally, the output pins of the ECU that correspond to the spark plugs.

ESKONF merely represents what outputs are enabled on the ECU.

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Original 3 pin coils with coil packs thingies on top of airbox (for 2.7t's)
or the 'RS6' coils or whatever people call them, with modded loom and 4 wire coils.
Totally irrelevant.

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with my decoding of the Hex (Technically Theka Hexidecimal  [10+6 decimal, not 6 decimal!!]) shows EV2 & EV4 'not installed' which is ONE HELL of a coincidence since I have had misfires from those two cylinders.

no idea what you're saying here. if ESKONF is wrong for EV2/EV4 your car would not start.
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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2021, 05:06:03 PM »

Not done S4's but eskonf unsurprisingly looks same/similar to 7.1.1.'s, usually around the 010xxx mark at quick look, printed off a csv if it's same/similar/cross flashing etc - it's 1a.m. I'm sure you can figure it out!

This s4 file;
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=467.0
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« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2021, 01:04:54 AM »

Quote from: lkomnino on Yesterday at 09:12:09 AM
Not sure how to contact s4wiki admin/mods, but https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ME7.1_bit_pairs
is missing Byte 9 for ME7.1

Its a wiki; you can edit it yourself. Are you familiar with wikipedia?

Yes I am, but I would hate it if someone put wrong infomation in place of an omission. Also meant to be 13 bytes for 2.7s,only shows 12.

Anyway, that looks like a typo. Also ME7.1 only has 6 cyl, not 8, so probably its doubly wrong.

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Also anyone know what the "ZUE: Ignition coil" refers to?

Quite literally, the output pins of the ECU that correspond to the spark plugs.

ESKONF merely represents what outputs are enabled on the ECU.

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Original 3 pin coils with coil packs thingies on top of airbox (for 2.7t's)
or the 'RS6' coils or whatever people call them, with modded loom and 4 wire coils.
Totally irrelevant.

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with my decoding of the Hex (Technically Theka Hexidecimal  [10+6 decimal, not 6 decimal!!]) shows EV2 & EV4 'not installed' which is ONE HELL of a coincidence since I have had misfires from those two cylinders.

no idea what you're saying here. if ESKONF is wrong for EV2/EV4 your car would not start.

What I'm saying is: some idiot decided to re-invent the Greek language. 'Hexadecimal' is meant to refer to 16, not 6.
As I am 3/4 Greek, it is the equivalent of someone from a different county deciding to leave off the 'teen' in sixteen.
Hence Hexadecimal should be corrected to 'Theka Hexadecimal'.
A pet peeve.



Anyway, the ESKONF is "13 bytes in the 2.7 flash"...
"Bit pair legend:
    11 = SKIP, as in that component is not installed.
    10 = SPECIAL TREATMENT. For all intents and purposes, we're going to ignore this.
    00 = INSTALLED

ME7.1 bit pairs

Byte  0: EV6    EV3     EV4     EV1
Byte  1: XX     NWS1    LULK    TEV
Byte  2: XX     EKP     AKF     XX
Byte  3: XX     XX      XX      SLP
Byte  4: EV5    SLV     XX      NWS2
Byte  5: HSH2   ULT     EV2     LDR
Byte  6: XX     BKV     HSH     XX
Byte  7: XX     XX      XX      XX
Byte  8: ZUE    ZUE     ZUE     ZUE
Byte  9: ZUE    ZUE     ZUE     ZUE
Byte 10: XX     XX      XX      XX
Byte 11: XX     XX      XX      XX
Byte 12: XX     XX      XX      XX"  << An assumption

0)   00 - 0000 0000 - EV6 EV3 EV4 EV1
1)   FC - 1111 1100 - XX  XX   XX  TEV
2)   E3 - 1110 0011 - XX  XX   AKF  XX
3)   FC - 1111 1100 - XX  XX   XX   SLP
4)   0C - 0000 1100 - EV5 SLV XX NWS2
5)   00 - 0000 0000 - HSH2 ULT EV2 LDR
6)   C3 - 1100 0011 - XX BKV HSH XX
7)   FF - 1111 1111 - XX  XX  XX  XX
Cool   AA - 1010 1010 - XX   XX  XX  XX
9)   FA - 1111 1010 - XX   XX  XX  XX
10) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX
11) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX
12) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX


corrected to remove:
HSH (rear o2s),
BKV (Brake Booster Pump),
SLP (J299 SAI pump relay) &
SLV (N112 SAI solenoid valve).

0)   00 - 0000 0000 - EV6 EV3 EV4 EV1
1)   FC - 1111 1100 - XX  XX   XX  TEV
2)   E3 - 1110 0011 - XX  XX   AKF  XX
3)   FC - 1111 1111 - XX  XX   XX   SLP -> FF
4)   0C - 0011 1100 - EV5 SLV XX NWS2 -> 3C
5)   00 - 1100 0000 - HSH2 ULT EV2 LDR -> C0
6)   C3 - 1111 1111 - XX BKV HSH XX -> FF
7)   FF - 1111 1111 - XX  XX  XX  XX
Cool   AA - 1010 1010 - XX   XX  XX  XX
9)   FA - 1111 1010 - XX   XX  XX  XX
10) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX
11) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX
12) 55 - 0101 0101 - XX   XX  XX  XX


00 FC E3 FF 3C C0 FF FF AA FA 55 55 55

It helps if I write it all out, to show my 'workings', or errors.

Thank you for all your help, and please forgive my naivety.
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« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2021, 02:41:57 AM »

I think they're calibration files in that last link so it may not be 100% accurate, but you'll find a set of values similar around that area in yours if not the same. You're on the right track though!
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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2021, 02:45:53 AM »

Also, don't forget to read threads like this;

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=615.0
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