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« Reply #240 on: October 30, 2014, 03:31:49 AM »

Figured I would throw this up here I anticipate stage 2 coming to a theater near us so I searched for more tables in the 0003 binary. Attached to pick what is needed out of it  Smiley



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« Reply #241 on: October 30, 2014, 03:39:09 AM »

Before we begin the Stage 2 project (new thread) I would like to see some reports and logs from the Stage 1 file on other cars. My car is running well, but I might be missing some drivability problems due to my short commute and heavy foot.

I would also like to discuss beforehand what is to be expected from the Stage 2 file. We will certainly need some hardware upgrades. We need to decide which parts are a good compromise of performance vs value.

What do you think?
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« Reply #242 on: October 31, 2014, 03:59:51 AM »

Not had a chance to read through this all but has vvt switching been mentioned yet?

Kfnwse...
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« Reply #243 on: October 31, 2014, 07:20:01 AM »

Not had a chance to read through this all but has vvt switching been mentioned yet?

Kfnwse...

KFNWSE was located @ 2C266 and ddillenger provided some advice however I don't think it was implemented yet however.

Yes, there are gains to be had. I suggest logging stock, then advancing the camshafts until 2-300RPM after peak boost, then returning them to rest. Then, log again and compare time to speed.
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« Reply #244 on: October 31, 2014, 07:25:49 PM »

Not had a chance to read through this all but has vvt switching been mentioned yet?

Kfnwse...

why you asking if you know about useless vvt onk03turboblahblah?
 anyway if someone wants to test it - i just copied some maps from BAM and it worked. maybe its more than enought but it 100% works.

Code:
SCALAR: CWNWGE                                                            1.00               
SCALAR: CWNWSE                                                           40.00               
SCALAR: CWNWSG                                                            0.00               
SCALAR: CDTENWS                                                          733.0               
SCALAR: CDTENWSE                                                         745.0               
TABLE: KFNWSE                                                     

   U/min                        %
            9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00
  7000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6999.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6998.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6997.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  4000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  3000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1480.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
   720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001


TABLE: KFNWWLE                                                     

   U/min                        %
            9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00
  7000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6999.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6998.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6997.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  4000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  3000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1480.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
   720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001


SCALAR: DNLLSNW                                                         2520.0 U/min         
TABLE: FNWTME                                                     

       -   Grad C
            0.00   39.75   80.25   99.75
            0.0000  0.0000  1.0001  1.0001


SCALAR: TANW                                                            -15.00 Grad C         
TABLE: TVNWSTTM                                                   

       -   Grad C
          -20.25    0.00   20.25   60.00
             102.4   102.4   102.4   102.4


SCALAR: WNWSEAPP                                                       2304.00               
TABLE: SRL08NEUW (KFNWSE axis)                                     

                                 
            0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
    0.00      9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00
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« Reply #245 on: November 01, 2014, 03:13:26 AM »

The reason for asking was very simple. The vvt maps on the original is very different to as you did, the Bam setup. And on the ak it doesn't make use of the vvt as well as the bam. So my question was made because if you used it properly I'm sure it will help the stage 1 files. In much the same way using vvt on the golf's 032hn/hj which only uses it for warm benefits from having vvt during spool.


 
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« Reply #246 on: November 01, 2014, 06:37:52 PM »

I believe axes for kfnwse are columns @138D6 and rows @1398C.
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« Reply #247 on: November 01, 2014, 11:01:51 PM »

I believe axes for kfnwse are columns @138D6 and rows @1398C.

I looked at the axes for kfnwse, load axis looks ok but the rpm axis doesn't look right.  The address that have seen used before are @ 13924 AND @ 13974... not sure Huh  See attachment for values.
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« Reply #248 on: November 03, 2014, 02:03:42 AM »

I looked at the axes for kfnwse, load axis looks ok but the rpm axis doesn't look right.  The address that have seen used before are @ 13924 AND @ 13974... not sure Huh  See attachment for values.


138bc    ----RPM


13974   ----load

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« Reply #249 on: November 15, 2014, 06:50:01 AM »

Can this stage 1 xdf and bin be flashed to a 4B0906018DQ 05 Passat AWM ECU? If not could the 518AK ecu plug and play into my car with some calibrations? I have searched but i cant find much on the DQ ecu.
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« Reply #250 on: November 15, 2014, 06:59:30 AM »

Can this stage 1 xdf and bin be flashed to a 4B0906018DQ 05 Passat AWM ECU? If not could the 518AK ecu plug and play into my car with some calibrations? I have searched but i cant find much on the DQ ecu.
i know in the uk the 018dh from the Passat works with the ak/Al flash and is the only compatible Ecu I found, I'm not sure on the dq but if you can bench flash then I suggest giving it ago as the worst case you just flash back the original..

Just add though I think I might have flashed the Al/ak eeprom onto the dh Ecu, so you might need to look at that as well.. Might need confirming if it's required
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« Reply #251 on: November 16, 2014, 07:18:17 AM »

I've been looking into the IOP/IRL modifications and I found that the tables in the xdf are inverted, which means I cant copy/paste to the calculator spreadsheet. How do I go about making (duplicate) inverted tables to work from for this purpose? I tried swapping the axis locations and all I got was gibberish for values
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« Reply #252 on: November 16, 2014, 08:53:13 AM »

I've been looking into the IOP/IRL modifications and I found that the tables in the xdf are inverted, which means I cant copy/paste to the calculator spreadsheet. How do I go about making (duplicate) inverted tables to work from for this purpose? I tried swapping the axis locations and all I got was gibberish for values

Perhaps you missed the change of the major axis drop box, see attachment of KFMIOP.  It also helps is you have the axis defined separately and just link to them (don't have to change the conversion factors on the KFMIOP row and column axes).
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« Reply #253 on: November 16, 2014, 03:09:16 PM »

I just need to get my buddy 2 step and NLS into this file and he will be happy. If he didn't work so much I'd be able to get some logs to post up.
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« Reply #254 on: November 17, 2014, 10:25:41 PM »

why you asking if you know about useless vvt onk03turboblahblah?
 anyway if someone wants to test it - i just copied some maps from BAM and it worked. maybe its more than enought but it 100% works.

Code:
SCALAR: CWNWGE                                                            1.00               
SCALAR: CWNWSE                                                           40.00               
SCALAR: CWNWSG                                                            0.00               
SCALAR: CDTENWS                                                          733.0               
SCALAR: CDTENWSE                                                         745.0               
TABLE: KFNWSE                                                     

   U/min                        %
            9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00
  7000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6999.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6998.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6997.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  4000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  3000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1480.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
   720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001


TABLE: KFNWWLE                                                     

   U/min                        %
            9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00
  7000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6999.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6998.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6997.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  6000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  5000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  4000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
  3000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2520.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  2000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1480.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000  -4.000
  1000.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001
   720.0    18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001  18.001


SCALAR: DNLLSNW                                                         2520.0 U/min         
TABLE: FNWTME                                                     

       -   Grad C
            0.00   39.75   80.25   99.75
            0.0000  0.0000  1.0001  1.0001


SCALAR: TANW                                                            -15.00 Grad C         
TABLE: TVNWSTTM                                                   

       -   Grad C
          -20.25    0.00   20.25   60.00
             102.4   102.4   102.4   102.4


SCALAR: WNWSEAPP                                                       2304.00               
TABLE: SRL08NEUW (KFNWSE axis)                                     

                                 
            0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
    0.00      9.75   15.00   25.99   31.01   36.00   69.75  110.25  150.00

Been looking for the rest of these maps with no luck, I have KFNWHE, KFNWRE, KFNWSE defined with the correct axes (thanks littco)... is it necessary (recommended?) that these other maps be defined?  The stock bin appears (based on logging) to be activating VVT per KFNWSE as well as KFNWHE.

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