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« on: March 01, 2016, 11:07:01 AM »

Hello,
I`ve got a Problem with a Golf MK7 Engine in a  MK1 VW.
The Tuner which should take the immo off couldn't do it and we have got the immmobilizer problem.
Does somebody have done a immo off on Simos 18 and could help.
It shouldn`t be for free Wink
Or does somebody know what they have done in the Seat Cup ?
https://video-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/12769692_1829482700612497_1459929612_n.mp4?efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6InN2ZV9zZCJ9&oh=04408907b708a1b818cfe3e371c6cb13&oe=56D60728
Best regards Chris
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 01:31:31 PM »

How are you going to load the file?
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 01:38:40 PM »

CMD works on all but the newest ones.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 02:07:41 PM »

INCA can Flash IT too
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 03:55:07 PM »

While immo (security) is active?

INCA can Flash IT too
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 04:39:06 PM »

CMD works on all but the newest ones.

Only if the immo is authenticated!
There is no boot mode on CMD on these afaik.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 04:48:55 PM »

Yeah, I missed the whole "Immobilizer fucked" part.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 11:53:00 AM »

This means no one has done immo off on this ecu. There is the Solution to buy the immo Box from a tt cup or seat but this is Not as easy as it sounds.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2016, 12:04:25 PM »

No one has done immo off for SIMOS so far. Good luck trying to flash with CMD when their "files" only contain scrambled code areas too.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2016, 12:06:28 PM »

No one has done immo off for SIMOS so far. Good luck trying to flash with CMD when their "files" only contain scrambled code areas too.

yes it is a countermeasure for not beeing able to use the original files with other tools...Code is scrambled at the start of the file..
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2016, 12:20:12 PM »

Why not keep cluster/ecu/key/engine combo
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 02:40:37 AM »

If the engine was bought without Cluster key etc then There is no option.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 08:10:22 AM »

You still have the option to purchase ECU/cluster/key from a legit car, if your engine has non-legit origins.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 09:44:44 AM »

What do you mean no option? Just have cluster/key/ecu syncd together by somebody with the proper tools Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2016, 07:30:37 PM »

No one has done immo off for SIMOS so far. Good luck trying to flash with CMD when their "files" only contain scrambled code areas too.
Not true, people with custom tools have.

But even then, to get it done initially (to flash the ECU) immo must be authenticated.
If immo is not authenticated and immo is on, how are you going to flash it in the first place?

Also, OP mentioned INCA - how are you going to flash an unsigned binary with INCA on an ECU that is not in development mode?

Basically, to even try to immo off anything you need:
1) An ECU with working immo authenticated with the cluster.
2) A custom tool (there is no public tool that you can buy that will allow you to modify code area)

And after that you need to get the software.

Thus this topic is irrelevant. Or as the ECU would say "pre-conditions not correct" Wink
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