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« Reply #1140 on: February 01, 2019, 08:17:40 PM »

If you want to flash via OBDII, you may try I/O Terminal.

Have you had any success via I/O Terminal?
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« Reply #1141 on: February 02, 2019, 08:54:33 AM »


Thanks.
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« Reply #1142 on: February 18, 2019, 06:42:35 AM »

Have you had any success via I/O Terminal?

My friend flashed 2002 S60 2.3T5 via OBD2 successful.
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« Reply #1143 on: April 22, 2019, 11:37:26 AM »

Hi guys

I have b5244t5 m66 , stock HW with blue injectors and  3" decat and FMIC. With tune can make aprox 300 PS

What about 350+ ? when i change injector from R (green) and change flash maps from R then i have 300 PS. I thing this is best way to get 350 PS (remap R maps). If someone know which maps edit for stage1 R file 2005- would be great. Or have actuall damos?

any sugestions?

BR
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« Reply #1144 on: April 22, 2019, 01:44:43 PM »

Engine has different bore. Knock recognition is off then, filling calculations in idle and part load will not work proper.

Intercooler is different, cam adjustment works different. Gear calculations will not work because of different gearbox.

Numerous other things i don't remember ad hoc.

Just use R flashfile will mostly not workout for you.


Use your file, put in desired mods and (have) adjust your file accordingly.

Good Luck
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« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2019, 03:57:36 PM »

Thank you for reply Daniel

This is very interesting what you wrote. gearbox m66 have different between AWD and FWD? 
On test i will try start engine on R file, but i know people who drive his S60/V70 R with replacement engine from B5254T4 to B5244T5

Different beetwen 2.4 T5 and 2.5T R except FourC, brakes, design etc are only few like:
R models: green injectors, additional IC which does not change much and software.
T5 260 : blue injectors

cylinder head, Turbo Borg warner kkk24, dual VVT, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, airbox, MAF, rail with FPS, fuel control module are the same. Only engine block have 2.4L  T5 with thicker sleeves

In my opinion that should work without problem, but this is only my opinion

BR

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« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2019, 11:54:16 PM »

Yes, different gearbox ratios.

Cylinder head is different along with different range of cvvt.
Turbo has different setting of pushrod. Maybe different spring from 05+. Needs to confirm.

Different Bore is biggest concern in my opinion. Read a bit how knock filtering, window definitions and bandpass filters work. It will be obvious that to be safe some adjustments here are at least needed...
Especially when ignition angles and ignition efficiency calculations are off because of wrong maps used.
So knock control not working, acceleration and knock enrichment not working correct.
Less charge air cooling along with boost overshoots from different turbo setting. Sounds not like "no problem" for me Cheesy


With green injectors it will start. But i prefer doing it the proper way then drive around a pile of shit which only does not explode because of a lot luck Wink
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« Reply #1147 on: April 23, 2019, 02:16:08 AM »

B5244T5 (2.4 T5 260)
B5254T2 (2.5T 210)
B5254T4 (2.5T 300)
B5204T5 (2.0T 180)

2004+ with dual VVT have the same cylinder head with part number 36050243

B5244T5/B5254T4 turbo borg warner kkk24 the same performance, 4.4 psi WG adjustment
First R have different intake pipe from turbo to intercooler, R 2007- have the same plastic like B5244T5
WG is simple to check and adjustment, if DV need replacement there are some tuning parts.

Volvo does not hinder work
for years, the differences in power were only due to injectors, turbines and software and of course engine like 2.3L 2.0L 2.5L etc

2.5T R engine has problems with cylinders (83mm bore),
2.4T does not have these problems and you can do up to 380-400 HP on this engine (81mm bore)




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« Reply #1148 on: April 23, 2019, 02:59:55 AM »


B5244T5/B5254T4 turbo borg warner kkk24 the same performance, 4.4 psi WG adjustment


4.4 psi wastegate preload is some incorrect bs. The correct preload can be seen in Vida where it explains the adjustment procedure as well as in ECM software it can be determined via certain maps.
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« Reply #1149 on: April 23, 2019, 03:15:23 AM »

Don't rely too much on part lists. They tend to be wrong, especially for R Parts.
And, they are replacement part lists. It does not mean that those parts listed are factory installed...

You can take a the R head, put it on bench, put a 2.5T or T5 head beneath and measure the hight.
You will notice a difference. You will also notice different oil line sizes below CVVT modules and you will notice different parts of whole CVVT.

One thing which represent this are different ignition coils.
The R coils have different part number because they are higher due to higher head.



Rod adjustment is different. Can be seen when choosing the correct note from Volvo.
And can be seen in complete different PID application in data sets.




You don't need to believe that, im just writhing what i noticed in the past almost 15 Years Smiley



And: it is useless to discuss. Different bore and impact on knocking would be a no go for me.
And you can easily achieve same torque an power numbers with B5244T5 software.
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« Reply #1150 on: April 23, 2019, 12:04:22 PM »

Relax guys this is the loose conversations Smiley

I do not know if you have watched the B5244t5 engine since 2005-
has other candles than the 2004 vintage even as the My2005
since 2005 there are significant differences that present negligible identical parts of T5 to R
I had a basket of parts from R 2004 and S60 T5 2004 then 2005, 2006 and there were differences with each year
It is these differences 2005+ they most closely approximate T5 to R. longer Spark plugs, coils (grey plug) for My2006, different cyl. head etc.

I do not rely solely on catalog data, I have been collecting experience for over 10 years and every year the model was different in every Volvo.

I know that on the B5244T5 file we can do the power we want, but tuning is a lot of experiments that are not written on cards and we have to check how it works. I will share my experiences with you in a short time how works Rfile with B5244T5 2005+ engine
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« Reply #1151 on: April 23, 2019, 02:05:42 PM »

Hehe, im mostly relaxed Smiley

Ok, for a late MY06 or even 07 they might have changed the T5 parts more in the direction of the R engine.
But would that make sense with a last MY of the R in 2006?

No synergies in 2007 to earn since no parallel production anymore...



Only a hint: when you have some, let's say "lack of experience" with tuning those Volvos, then using a file which might be completely decalibrated for your engine isn't a good start. In my opinion. Don't take "lack of experience" negative, i have no better words to describe it.

The whole process of logging, thinking and learning might be lead in a wrong direction by the issues you might observe.

A better way in my opinion with that situation would be to compare the files whenever it is unclear how some things has to be done and look what has been done with the R. Transfer the approach to your file and se what happens...


Good Luck with your project.
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« Reply #1152 on: April 23, 2019, 02:14:57 PM »

I agree with Daniel.

It’s much easier (don’t take the word “easy” literally) to make 300 bhp (or more) with stock T5 file, adjusting relevant maps than just flashing an R file. You’ll be chasing your tail when issues arise.
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« Reply #1153 on: April 26, 2019, 04:13:16 AM »

Hello

Ok guys, thank you for tips. That's right, it's safest to tune the engine on a T5 file.
If any od you have good damos/a2l for 2005+ file T5/R 
sw30771145AA 50GPHJ.a2l FWD EU  ?

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« Reply #1154 on: May 02, 2019, 07:50:58 AM »

Where to begin with making 300hp from a t2?
Mechanical mods waiting: 3in turbo back exhaust with a 200 cell cat, aftermarket intercooler, can you get away with stock maf?
Also bigger injectors (blue), 16T avail.
These parts are ready to be installed when time comes.

Anyone have an inexpensive way of flashing over OBD?
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