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Title: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 01, 2013, 05:49:34 AM I want to update the function with some new tweaks and functions.
And just wanted to ask for wishes or improvement on code. I want to add - Late Ignition Angle while Launch over an rpm threshold - Disabling Knock and Misfire detection while Launch and NLS - LC/NLS Engine Temperature Threshold If somebody has ideas for improvement, let me know here. I will post current Status here. [node from admin] This topic is done. Locked, unless somebody is actually willing to do real work and not just run a script. If so, PM me and I will unlock. Noobs, if you think you this is the place to post "please add NLS to my file" or "I ran the script and it doesn't work", please read http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=12559.0title= Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TheDSI on October 01, 2013, 10:13:06 AM maybe an EGT threshold .
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 01, 2013, 10:22:47 AM maybe an EGT threshold . You mean to control mixtures or to disable lc on high egt? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on October 01, 2013, 01:15:29 PM Mazer: i swear I will try to help time permitting, but i've been slammed lately.
Thank you for working on this though! Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TheDSI on October 01, 2013, 01:22:34 PM You mean to control mixtures or to disable lc on high egt? I mean to disable NLS . Mazer: i swear I will try to help time permitting, but i've been slammed lately. Thank you for working on this though! +1 Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 01, 2013, 02:18:09 PM Mazer: i swear I will try to help time permitting, but i've been slammed lately. Thank you for working on this though! Is no problem, i try to implement your wishes as first :) TheDSI: We can make a EGT check inside, but whats with the ecus without sensor? Use BTS Calculated EGT ? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TheDSI on October 02, 2013, 01:08:18 AM I think on ecu with no EGT sensor we can just disable egt threshold since the ecu can realy calculate egt with NLS actived .
I can test it on an 8D0907551K RS4 if it can help . Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 02, 2013, 06:16:36 AM I think on ecu with no EGT sensor we can just disable egt threshold since the ecu can realy calculate egt with NLS actived . I can test it on an 8D0907551K RS4 if it can help . Ok i write it to the wish list :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: AndiS4 on October 07, 2013, 02:20:42 AM BTS is mostly depending on calculated tAbgas, even with egt-Sensors.
For example 8d0907551d has an tabgbts of 500°C stock, but measuring starts @ 945°C (i think?) areas under 945°C are managed by the modulated egt... Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Snow Trooper on October 20, 2013, 12:34:57 PM Anything I can do to help with testing let me know.
The knock control disable is the most needed new feature. I currently only run als/nls only on race gas and disable knock control in the rpms it functions which sucks because its always disabled. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 22, 2013, 07:52:40 AM Anything I can do to help with testing let me know. The knock control disable is the most needed new feature. I currently only run als/nls only on race gas and disable knock control in the rpms it functions which sucks because its always disabled. Is it really false knock or is it false misfires being reported that are pulling the timing? From my logs it seemed like the NLS was causing the ecu to wrongly see misfires. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on October 22, 2013, 08:32:09 AM It's both
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Snow Trooper on October 22, 2013, 09:54:15 AM Yeah its both really, but disabling knock control seems to work for me to keep the power intact.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on October 22, 2013, 10:00:44 AM yea, except you get a cel (and maybe limp) on enough misfires?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 22, 2013, 11:43:56 AM It's both prj I think it was pointed out that it can't be real knock as there is no ignition event happening... ;-) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on October 22, 2013, 12:31:42 PM prj I think it was pointed out that it can't be real knock as there is no ignition event happening... ;-) I think we all agree that disabling knock recognition during LC/NLS is safe for exactly this reason :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Snow Trooper on October 22, 2013, 02:50:20 PM Have never gotten a cel from misfires with it.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 22, 2013, 03:15:29 PM Next version will have disabled MD and KR :)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: userpike on October 22, 2013, 06:52:47 PM what about setting launch RPM in the vehicle while it's running using cruise control or something?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 23, 2013, 10:44:25 AM what about setting launch RPM in the vehicle while it's running using cruise control or something? My cruise control is used for map switching ;-) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 23, 2013, 10:44:57 AM Next version will have disabled MD and KR :) If you need a beta tested let me know! I'm headed to the track this weekend so would love a nice version of NLS for then... Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: krazydbiker on October 23, 2013, 04:52:22 PM make it work for us volvo idiots :-D, i have tried so many times and always end up with the good old brick!
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Brumbassen on October 24, 2013, 12:33:05 AM what about setting launch RPM in the vehicle while it's running using cruise control or something? maybe brake pedal ?? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 25, 2013, 03:19:09 AM My cruise control is used for map switching ;-) What ecu you have ? I have some new beta ready but Need someone with easy ecu to test :D Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 25, 2013, 07:54:42 AM What ecu you have ? I have some new beta ready but Need someone with easy ecu to test :D I am ready to test! Hitting track on Sunday so would love to have good NLS for 10s ;-) I'm using this code as my base: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2872.0title= 8D0907551M_0261207143_1037354837_001 Which is the same as the normal 002 version M-Box with the exception of: Use 0x8B39C for the JumptoALNLS for 001 M-Box Use 0x8B3A6 for the JumptoALNLS for 002 M-Box Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: britishturbo on October 25, 2013, 07:55:13 AM If you want to email me anything you can at britishturbo @ gmail.com
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on November 01, 2013, 02:34:33 PM If you want to email me anything you can at britishturbo @ gmail.com I think this changes will help people with big turbos :D - Ignition Angle map while Launch Control - Target Lambda for Launch Control Hot or not? ;) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Snow Trooper on November 01, 2013, 08:09:59 PM The current functions seems to work well on turbos big and small for that, but the control is certainly nice if available.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: edduu on November 12, 2013, 10:55:21 AM i have a good friend thats crazy with asm, its just a few lines forward the function of antilag and nls, i just need:
- name of the oil temp in the dump.ecu file - what oil temp will be safe? - the most important for knock control, if we change the knock control maps (i saw some of them), putting high values for disable, then back up to the original one after the function ends will prevent this for happening. also something cool for the map switching would be enable modified maps once the car is warmed up, for dont explode the car in cold. and if the oil temp is really high put the original maps, before getting in limp mode and preventing this. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: NOTORIOUS VR on November 12, 2013, 11:21:06 AM On the fly ALS set point would be really nice...
like hold RPM, and tap the brake pedal while speed is 0 km/h and that sets the launch RPM? rinse/repeat for a different set point... that will help a lot since having to reflash every time to change the launch RPM really sucks.. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on November 12, 2013, 01:18:08 PM i have a good friend thats crazy with asm, its just a few lines forward the function of antilag and nls, i just need: - name of the oil temp in the dump.ecu file - what oil temp will be safe? - the most important for knock control, if we change the knock control maps (i saw some of them), putting high values for disable, then back up to the original one after the function ends will prevent this for happening. also something cool for the map switching would be enable modified maps once the car is warmed up, for dont explode the car in cold. and if the oil temp is really high put the original maps, before getting in limp mode and preventing this. Are you sure there is a Oil Temperature Variable? I never seen it. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on November 12, 2013, 01:24:29 PM i have a good friend thats crazy with asm, its just a few lines forward the function of antilag and nls, i just need: - name of the oil temp in the dump.ecu file - what oil temp will be safe? - the most important for knock control, if we change the knock control maps (i saw some of them), putting high values for disable, then back up to the original one after the function ends will prevent this for happening. also something cool for the map switching would be enable modified maps once the car is warmed up, for dont explode the car in cold. and if the oil temp is really high put the original maps, before getting in limp mode and preventing this. i dont know of any ME7.1x ECUs that have oil temp only coolant temp. oil temp goes straight to cluster... Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: phila_dot on November 13, 2013, 11:59:29 AM Why would you want to automate behavior off of oil temp?
Personally, I would much rather be able to conciously control aggresiveness with my right foot. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: edduu on November 13, 2013, 12:35:42 PM Why would you want to automate behavior off of oil temp? Personally, I would much rather be able to conciously control aggresiveness with my right foot. i love my bmw with jb4, it dont enable the agressiev map once the car has warm up. if you try to wot in cold, it does 10 psi (stock), and once it have a desired oil temp, it enables the 17 psi and meth start injecting ;D i think its the best way to protect them also against complaints regarding broken things, i never read a post in the whole forum of a jb4 powered car with engine damages because the tune. would be awesome do something like that for the me7 xD Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on November 13, 2013, 04:21:56 PM i love my bmw with jb4, it dont enable the agressiev map once the car has warm up. Where is the problem, you said you got a friend who is a asm genius.if you try to wot in cold, it does 10 psi (stock), and once it have a desired oil temp, it enables the 17 psi and meth start injecting ;D i think its the best way to protect them also against complaints regarding broken things, i never read a post in the whole forum of a jb4 powered car with engine damages because the tune. would be awesome do something like that for the me7 xD He should add you a mapswitch routine based on Temperature Threshold ( i think Coolant Temperature should be enaugh ). Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: flamy on June 08, 2014, 10:43:40 AM If somebody has ideas for improvement, let me know here. Hi Mazer,I will post current Status here. I made some experiences with a "van Kronenburg" / KMS ECU called MP25. Launchcontrol was nice to configure by only four parameters: - RPM - Ignition angle [deg.] - Fuel enrichment [%] for additional cooling - PWM boost [%] for limiting boost while launching. Lambda-control gets deactivated while launch-control is active. What do you think about it? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: erroob0977 on June 10, 2014, 12:21:27 PM So I've been working on AL/NLS today, working through the disassembled code (old version). I don't have too much experience with disassembly but I just want to know if I'm on the right track here. My goal is to get rid of the KR timing pull, it looks like the way to do this would be to force b_kr to 0 while AL/NLS is active.
There are two places in the function where tsrldyn is set to 0, would right after that be the place to set b_kr to 0? By adding in movb [b_kr address], ZEROS Or is there a better way to go about this? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: terminator on June 10, 2014, 04:46:46 PM I have set and reset some bits in b_mil (I know this is not b_kr), and EPC is light on (that what I want), but sometimes (very seldom) it winks. I think its because in another part of code b_mil bits reset.
I think the same thing can be with b_kr seldom. But I dont see any problem to test it. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: phila_dot on June 10, 2014, 05:11:01 PM You don't want to clear B_mil in your function just to have it set again in KR.
Use bclr not movb zeros Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: erroob0977 on June 11, 2014, 08:00:03 AM Use bclr not movb zeros Thanks! I think I've got it now, I'll test it out this evening. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on June 23, 2014, 04:23:16 PM Hi Mazer, I made some experiences with a "van Kronenburg" / KMS ECU called MP25. Launchcontrol was nice to configure by only four parameters: - RPM - Ignition angle [deg.] - Fuel enrichment [%] for additional cooling - PWM boost [%] for limiting boost while launching. Lambda-control gets deactivated while launch-control is active. What do you think about it? Sounds very nice, 50% of this is available now. Still working on PWM Boost and Fueling :D Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: flamy on June 25, 2014, 02:08:38 PM That would be amazing :)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TheDSI on June 25, 2014, 11:42:10 PM Are you sure there is a Oil Temperature Variable? I never seen it. TOLC is oïl temp . I think it works like in an EDC15, Dashboard send oïl temp via CAN to ECU and it use the oïl temp and level sensor Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on June 26, 2014, 04:13:18 AM TOLC is oïl temp . I think it works like in an EDC15, Dashboard send oïl temp via CAN to ECU and it use the oïl temp and level sensor You are talking about 2.7T right?Because i never seen oil Temperature sensor on 1.8T Engine. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TheDSI on June 26, 2014, 03:05:59 PM it must have an oil temp sensor on the oil pan ...
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6516/p2805091131.jpg) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on June 26, 2014, 03:20:48 PM RS4 has oil temp in ECU.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: cruuz on July 13, 2014, 01:52:28 AM hello reversers,
my intention is to make LC running with late ignition, to limit rpm increasing and get combustion pressure through the outlet valves causing turbine to spin and create boost. So seting tsrldyn=0 is not a good idea. Which variable needs to be changed in order to influence the ignition angle?is it zwout? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: BerkleyJ on July 15, 2014, 08:10:00 AM All I hear is good things about the updated version. When are you going to release it?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: jmont23 on July 15, 2014, 08:44:04 AM Make sure you have a strong clutch, cause the newest version really puts a strain on the clutch during NLS. Mine won't hold the newest NLS version, so I'm not using it.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: cruuz on July 15, 2014, 10:02:55 PM where is the new code? is LC also affected?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on July 16, 2014, 06:32:06 PM where is the new code? is LC also affected? Yes LC is affected too, but new code is not public yet. There are some features need to be fixed. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Allabout on July 29, 2014, 09:04:52 PM Yes LC is affected too, but new code is not public yet. There are some features need to be fixed. Any idea, when this may become public? Thanks Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: MyTunes on August 02, 2014, 09:26:23 PM I dont think it has been suggested yet...
What about a type of rev matching when nls is engaged? Maybe have an rpm catch so it would work only if the rpms when above a certain limit say 7000 and then have the rpms automatically go to where they would rev match the next gear. Ex. in 1st gear and you shift at 7200 rpm and engage 2nd gear the rpms go to (im making up a number) 4300 rpm So have the rev match automatically have the rpms at 4300 rpm so when you engage 2nd the engine speed is already at 4300rpm Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: julex on August 28, 2014, 06:22:19 AM Hi guys,
So when can we see changes that need to be made/pasted into the M-box for new routine? I see a lot of people posting their experiences with new routine but I cannot see what it is anywhere. Thanks :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on August 28, 2014, 06:56:08 AM Hi guys, So when can we see changes that need to be made/pasted into the M-box for new routine? I see a lot of people posting their experiences with new routine but I cannot see what it is anywhere. Thanks :) Hello Julex, send me your file over pm or email, ill include the new function to you. At the moment we are still testing the new code. greets Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: julex on August 28, 2014, 07:08:28 AM Hello Julex, send me your file over pm or email, ill include the new function to you. At the moment we are still testing the new code. greets Sweet, thanks! Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: !nfern0 on October 30, 2014, 03:19:00 PM Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. Maybe someone else made this proposals.
I think following Details would be nice. Regarding NLS: I think with the current code the ignition sets in from 0 to 1. Maybe it would be nice (to lower the impact on the drivetrain) to make some kind of an increasing "ramp" of torque. Maybe like the first 0.1s ignition sets in every 3 cycles. Then the next 0.1s ignition sets in every 2 cycles. And then full ignition. The values are not tested. They are freely chosen, just that you understand what i mean. Of course this would cause some extra chemical energy in the exhaust system (++ fireballs), but i think this would be better for the drivetrain. I also have an idea regarding downshifting: Some kind of Auto-Rev-Matching. I think it's complicated to implement, but maybe it's possible. If the driver is braking and also pressing the clutch there is a high probability that he will shift down. In this case the revs (if the clutch is pressed) could increase by some kind of blip to the next lower gear. There you also would need some kind of time window, but that's a detail. But I think now you know what i mean. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on October 30, 2014, 04:54:19 PM That would be very dependant of your drivetrain/wheel size etc if the ecu has to calculate your decreasing speed to required downshift RPM to make it smooth I guess.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: phils8 on November 18, 2014, 03:37:18 PM When will the new code be available? I'm using the old AL/NLS successfully but would like to try the new one.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: mushtafa on January 21, 2015, 02:29:59 PM Eagerly awaiting this new code!
Who's developing this? Would happily donate ;D Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on January 25, 2015, 06:57:13 PM Video of the new beta version
http://youtu.be/oyx3TthofSM Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Jonamond on January 25, 2015, 09:16:35 PM Video of the new beta version http://youtu.be/oyx3TthofSM :o very nice! Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: thelastleroy on January 26, 2015, 04:04:49 AM 8) cool 8)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: _nameless on January 26, 2015, 10:37:58 AM My car ;D http://youtu.be/k7LPCApGSpM
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: _nameless on January 26, 2015, 10:41:36 AM Vs old http://youtu.be/urg43JFBM38
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on January 26, 2015, 03:21:40 PM Wow! Would love to integrate this in my file.. imagine a camper van throwing flames like that ;D Probably I will roast the clutch on the first launch though ::)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on January 26, 2015, 07:34:09 PM My car ;D http://youtu.be/k7LPCApGSpM nice xDTitle: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: _nameless on January 27, 2015, 10:30:58 AM nice xD Thanks to you ;DTitle: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on February 23, 2015, 02:29:30 PM Oh I wanted to let you know I am using this function on my 018AE bin (APX 512kb) with FTOMN set to 1. No damage done yet, testing for about a month now on 2 cars. Its quite smooth on the TT with full stock exhaust and nice loud pops on my full 3" exhaust. Works with lpg too ::)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Lost on February 23, 2015, 02:33:23 PM What is the functio of FTOMN and how do you apply it??
What is happening by raising or decreasing it. Thanx. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on February 23, 2015, 06:06:08 PM It is the minimum
The FR is not very clear on the function either, except for a little graph that shows the correlation between dwelltime and ignition delay. The less dwell, the less delay in effective ignition angle. With increasing rpms the dwell can/will be shorter. There is offcourse also less time available on high rpms. Usually, dwell time influences the spark power, setting it too low can result in weak spark and setting it too high can burn the coil. So normally a lower value in FTOMN would be safe (actual dwell time is set in other maps and ftom will just limit the lower range), except that people have reported failure with the 0ms setting on old ecu boards. So either the ecu stores all energy that would normally go to the coils and overheats as result, or the setting is interpreted as infinite or a large number and the coils overcharge and fail as result. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: edgy on March 06, 2015, 11:02:20 PM MaZer is your new code ready?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on March 09, 2015, 08:46:40 PM MaZer is your new code ready? Sorry is still in testing :( No Release without perfect results. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on March 10, 2015, 01:49:15 AM Great work Mazer & co, I trust you guys to come up with great code. Old version works perfect so far. 1 thing I like to point out: I test this on 2 different 1.8t engines on the same software, and the stock engine seems to have a smoother launch rpm than my modified bus engine. I suspect the cut to be too long for light flywheels, I run a machined solid flywheel on the bus and it drops rpms way more at launch. Do you have a setting implemented to adjust this?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on April 13, 2015, 08:42:34 AM i was thinking of putting a check just before the old launch control code that will check if wkrma is more than 6kw it will overide the complete code so i did the following..
Movb r16, byte_(wkrma) ; in my case f9d5 in ram cmpb r16, unk_17exx ; variable for checking the wkrma just after the launch control variables in my file jmpr cc_UGT, loc_8axxx ; jump to epc ligt set (on) mov r7, byte_bf78 ; Empty space to store a flag for the epc light check cmp r7, #0 ; compare the r7 for setting epcl off jmpr cc_NZ, loc_8ayyy ; jump to epcl off Loc_8axxx bset word_fd24.1 ; Epcl on mov r7, #1 mov byte_bf78, r7 ; saving r7 to memory mov r7, #0 jmpr cc_UC, loc_8affff ; Als nls code ovveride Loc_8ayyy bclr fd24.1 ; epcl off mov r7, #0 mov byte_bf78, r7 ; setting the memory flag to zero. BTW i tested a code without the flag check and it worked but ecpl was set to off from ignition on and i suppose it would close that everytime is set on by another routine.Before i flash it does this make sence or i missed something? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: terminator on April 13, 2015, 04:55:44 PM EPC on me7.1 is no problem, if I'm right, you need to change about two routines. But ME7.5 is another story)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on April 14, 2015, 02:42:36 AM From what i tested it seems to me that they work the same me7.1 and me7.5.
I do not need to change any routines in the existing code i just added mine in the start of the launch control code.it worked for me without saving something in memory but i need a flag in order to have that code working only if it sets the ecpl on. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on August 01, 2015, 11:12:58 PM https://youtu.be/BIBkyC3r6DE (https://youtu.be/BIBkyC3r6DE) because launch control is nothing without a launch ;D
It's pretty brutal for a campervan, but it actually launches the best for sprints this way ;) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: fknbrkn on August 02, 2015, 03:44:40 AM badass ;D
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: LEMan on August 08, 2015, 12:21:00 PM Nice going! Still haven't got mine working properly yet....
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwaudiguy on August 08, 2015, 02:24:23 PM Nice job TijnCU! Thanks for posting an actual launch. :)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on September 11, 2015, 02:05:06 PM i've been trying to figure out how to change the launch control routine so that it ignores the wheel speed and uses the set button on the cruise control stalk to enable it only. i want a form of rolling launch control for a GT30 powered 1.8T im building now. i want to be able to build boost during roll races, like not pressing the clutch, full throttle with set button pressed to load the engine/turbo and once the set button is released its full bore in boost. you could also use simply hold the set button and press full throttle while stationary as well to use launch control once the set button was released it would be disable launch control and go.
i started a thread on it but people probably think i just want it to backfire while rolling and thats not what im after. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8968.0 what i dont understand is how the code redirects to the ram variables for example the first part as soon as the routine is accessed is to check the ram to see of the clutch switch is pressed. the hex for that first point is 9A 27 13 30. than it heads toward either launch control or NLS depending on if the pedal is pressed. well my idea is to make the entry point be based off of RPM first so that if its below say 4500rpm it goes to the launch control side and if its above 4500 rpm it jumps to the NLS side. on the launch control side if below 4500rpm the next thing i think it should check to see if the ram variable is on or off and if on it compares nmot_w to the predefined RPM and than goes to launch control. as for the NLS side i think it could just be left alone. also im not sure what ram variable is for the set button on the cruise control stalk. the potential ones i found that could be the set button in my .ECU file are.... S_fgrat S_fgrhs S_fgrsv S_fgrwb So if you anyone can shed some light on accomplishing this that would be great. also im not a 100% sure what the launch control does exactly but it seems like it just interrupts the the signal to the coils with no timing retard at all. i could be right and i could be wrong. im just thinking about how this works compared to real launch control in standalone ECU's like VEMS where it retards timing but keeps fuel enrichment till a target RPM 4500 than once that RPM is achieved it keeps retarding timing and interrupts the ignition signal. i had an idea if somehow the launch control routine could start by following (KFZWMN Map for minimal ignition angle) or a similar add on map to tune the timing retard than once it gets to the target RPM for launch control it than interrupts the the ignition signal for the real launch control effect. just ideas i have and im willing to work with them and test them if someone is willing to teach me a little more about how the added code accesses the ram and all that such. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on September 22, 2015, 12:26:17 PM i've been trying to figure out how to change the launch control routine so that it ignores the wheel speed and uses the set button on the cruise control stalk to enable it only. i want a form of rolling launch control for a GT30 powered 1.8T im building now. i want to be able to build boost during roll races, like not pressing the clutch, full throttle with set button pressed to load the engine/turbo and once the set button is released its full bore in boost. you could also use simply hold the set button and press full throttle while stationary as well to use launch control once the set button was released it would be disable launch control and go. i started a thread on it but people probably think i just want it to backfire while rolling and thats not what im after. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8968.0 what i dont understand is how the code redirects to the ram variables for example the first part as soon as the routine is accessed is to check the ram to see of the clutch switch is pressed. the hex for that first point is 9A 27 13 30. than it heads toward either launch control or NLS depending on if the pedal is pressed. well my idea is to make the entry point be based off of RPM first so that if its below say 4500rpm it goes to the launch control side and if its above 4500 rpm it jumps to the NLS side. on the launch control side if below 4500rpm the next thing i think it should check to see if the ram variable is on or off and if on it compares nmot_w to the predefined RPM and than goes to launch control. as for the NLS side i think it could just be left alone. also im not sure what ram variable is for the set button on the cruise control stalk. the potential ones i found that could be the set button in my .ECU file are.... S_fgrat S_fgrhs S_fgrsv S_fgrwb So if you anyone can shed some light on accomplishing this that would be great. also im not a 100% sure what the launch control does exactly but it seems like it just interrupts the the signal to the coils with no timing retard at all. i could be right and i could be wrong. im just thinking about how this works compared to real launch control in standalone ECU's like VEMS where it retards timing but keeps fuel enrichment till a target RPM 4500 than once that RPM is achieved it keeps retarding timing and interrupts the ignition signal. i had an idea if somehow the launch control routine could start by following (KFZWMN Map for minimal ignition angle) or a similar add on map to tune the timing retard than once it gets to the target RPM for launch control it than interrupts the the ignition signal for the real launch control effect. just ideas i have and im willing to work with them and test them if someone is willing to teach me a little more about how the added code accesses the ram and all that such. You can study the multimap code from phila_dot in order to understand how to manipulate the set or reset buttons from cruise control. You just need S_fgrsv(set) . But how are you going to overcome the misfire/knock detection algorithm? for building boost you can also check the brake boosting trick as long as you have a good clutch.. The current launch control code engages when the dwell time is set at a point that will not produce any spark.. that is why you set nmot to 0.0 or 0.1 . Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on September 22, 2015, 01:58:35 PM But how are you going to overcome the misfire/knock detection algorithm? I am surprised at this question, because for someone who knows what he is doing this takes 5 minutes.Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: sonique on September 22, 2015, 01:58:57 PM Sorry is still in testing :( No Release without perfect results. maybe any good news now ? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on September 23, 2015, 03:58:27 AM I am surprised at this question, because for someone who knows what he is doing this takes 5 minutes. Not disabling that completely but only for this period.i Have not studied that part of the code and i am addressing this issue since it will be much harder then manipulating the set signal or at least i think it would be harder. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on September 23, 2015, 10:40:34 AM You can study the multimap code from phila_dot in order to understand how to manipulate the set or reset buttons from cruise control. You just need S_fgrsv(set) . But how are you going to overcome the misfire/knock detection algorithm? for building boost you can also check the brake boosting trick as long as you have a good clutch.. The current launch control code engages when the dwell time is set at a point that will not produce any spark.. that is why you set nmot to 0.0 or 0.1 . Thank you for the info! i looked into it and seen i could test my cruise control stalk with VCDS measuring block 066 so i did and for some odd reason my set button doesnt directly feed back to the ECU, i think the cruise switch has to be on for the set button to be functional because the cruise works in my test dummy car. the attached pic is what i see as far as the add on launch control code. i figured i could edit/remove when it compares the wheel speed to the ram and replace that with the set button instead but i guess i have to figure out why the set button isnt registering in VCDS first and cure that problem. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on September 24, 2015, 02:43:46 AM You can use me7logger which is much better for logging anything.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on September 25, 2015, 10:10:24 AM my cheapo ebay VAG cable went missing a few months ago and i've neglected to order another one. i'll get another one here eventually.
i was messing with the cruise control stalk in VCDS again on group 066 and it turns out that the ECU only recognizes the set button when the cruise control switch is turned on. i guess thats normal and the proper why for it to work from the factory and i dont think it will hamper the usage of it this way but it will actually add another layer of safety so no one can accidently enable the feature plus on some cars when the cruise switch is on it also lights the cruise indicatior on the dash so that would also remind you that the launch control is enabled and to shut the switch off. i got this idea from a friend who own an alpha 12 nissan GTR with rolling launch control. here is a video of what the nissan tuners did with the GTR and its whole purpose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iebn4q_QU68 i did something similar to this on my URS6 avant as a test and on my AAN swapped audi 4000 quattro running on VEMS. on the URS6 im using a combo of factory internal ignition map switching and an N2MB WOT box so i get the same effect as real launch control found in most standalone ECU's which is start with timing retard and keep adding fuel till the launch RPM is achieved which is done with the ECU map switching and than once the launch RPM is achieved the WOT BOX interrupts the 12V power to the coils thus large explosions and backfiring. i use the set button on the cruise control stalk to enable the feature which instantly make the ECU switch maps and than the WOT BOX is enabled by the set button and throttle pedal position along with engine RPM. The VEMS on the other hand i simply replaced the clutch switch with the set button and left the rest of it alone. but basically i made my shade tree setup on my URS6 with how the VEMS works in mind. i havn't had a chance to test the 4000 yet rolling but the URS6 rolling 60mph and enabling the rolling launch control on the stock K24 sends that little turbo to 22psi almost instantly. im stalling a holset HX35 on my 4000 here soon so that will be a pretty good lazy spooling turbo to test with rolling. basically i like the option of having this when you have a far larger than stock turbo on your ME7 powered car and that guy in the corvette next to you thinks he has the advantage rolling because of turbo lag. well think again chevy boy lol. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on September 30, 2015, 09:39:12 AM Not disabling that completely but only for this period.i Have not studied that part of the code and i am addressing this issue since it will be much harder then manipulating the set signal or at least i think it would be harder. I am not stupid, I understood exactly what you said the first time, and I meant what I said.Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Snow Trooper on September 30, 2015, 10:22:11 AM I am not stupid, I understood exactly what you said the first time, and I meant what I said. Your arrogance is astounding. Try being polite to people for once. Btw... noob. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1139.0 Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on October 04, 2015, 06:20:59 PM Not disabling that completely but only for this period.i Have not studied that part of the code and i am addressing this issue since it will be much harder then manipulating the set signal or at least i think it would be harder. Upload your current File with Launch Code implemented. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on October 05, 2015, 05:25:43 AM Here it is.
Als nls code from here including some changes you pointed out in the past for tmotlin and mov . Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwaudiguy on October 11, 2015, 09:10:38 PM :)
https://www.facebook.com/HellaflushRC/videos/845285972254410/ Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on October 14, 2015, 04:32:26 PM Your arrogance is astounding. Try being polite to people for once. You really need to learn to post on topic and be less of a drama queen.Knock control on/off is a single bit on ME7. Same goes for misfires. Toggling this on or off is hardly rocket science, I know this because I've done this. Someone advertising themselves as a master Motronic tuner with custom code abilities should know that also, no ifs or buts about it. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on October 14, 2015, 10:38:58 PM You really need to learn to post on topic and be less of a drama queen. Not fair to exchange insults unless you publish :) For all his faults ST always explains what he is doing when he posts. You already know how I feel about this... Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on November 03, 2015, 10:34:22 PM Since i see many people making big money with implementing the code using the script from eduu and me, im not sure to release the new version to the public.
There are a lot of people that only selling this function to costumers and dont helping to get the code working better. Any Solutions? :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on November 03, 2015, 11:00:33 PM Any Solutions? :) Meh. Worrying about assholes harms more than it helps. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: adam- on November 04, 2015, 12:30:16 AM You'll always get that. I know people selling the map switching. If it's on the internet, people will steal it.
You've got me on Facebook; and I'm more than happy to test - but FWD posses a massive issue when launching. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: wannabee900 on November 04, 2015, 01:41:03 AM Any Solutions? :) No, If you release it as ASMcode here for only one ECU only those with knowledge will be able to adapt it to their own ECU and they can also easily sell it if they want. In that case people will need to pay someone to get it or nag here for help.Sure, if you release an .exe or a script it will also be easy to sell but there will be less people to sell to. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: adam- on November 04, 2015, 02:08:12 AM That said, I really like what you've done and I'm really please with the amount of information available freely here. Keep up what you're doing, and forget everyone else that's selling it! :)
It's probably pretty soul destroying knowing that people are selling the stuff you're releasing for free. It's sad, I guess. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on November 04, 2015, 11:35:23 AM Lets put it this way: The nefmoto flasher is closed source, and it has serious bugs, AND tony isn't honoring premium feature requests.
There is nothing worse than proprietary code. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: armageddon on November 04, 2015, 01:25:17 PM Disassembly/Assembly code is way out of my league, I can only help with testing if needed.
The only solution is not to release the new version, unfortunately, enthusiasts that have no economic interest will be dependant to those that are making money with your work or other. There will always be people that make life using other people's work, sadly is how life is. All I can do is congratulate all that contribute to this web site, without it I would not moved to stage 3 on my s4. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: adam- on November 04, 2015, 01:31:02 PM Lets put it this way: The nefmoto flasher is closed source, and it has serious bugs, AND tony isn't honoring premium feature requests. There is nothing worse than proprietary code. This. It makes no sense that it's closed source, it's just abandonware of the worst type. Even if 30 of us applied for a license in order for him to release the code to help make it better. Hell, release it to the trusted members in here to make it better, it's better than nothing. I don't see the advantage in it when he's now no longer making any money from it by not honouring licenses. Meh. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on November 04, 2015, 04:19:34 PM If you create scripts to autopatch stuff of course everyone and their mother will sell it.
What do you expect? Anyone who is good enough to put this into any ECU without simply following a guide of "search pattern X, replace with Y" can write their own function very quickly. And this is what many of us have been doing for a long time. I mean - I could post code for my pedal-adjustable LC for example, but it requires so much in-depth disassembly per ECU, that those who can add it in can write the functionality themselves anyway and the only thing I would get would be no-end of PM's from people who want it done for them for free. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwaudiguy on November 04, 2015, 11:55:26 PM Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: wannabee900 on November 05, 2015, 12:51:06 AM Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: masterj on November 05, 2015, 05:54:27 AM If you create scripts to autopatch stuff of course everyone and their mother will sell it. What do you expect? Anyone who is good enough to put this into any ECU without simply following a guide of "search pattern X, replace with Y" can write their own function very quickly. And this is what many of us have been doing for a long time. I mean - I could post code for my pedal-adjustable LC for example, but it requires so much in-depth disassembly per ECU, that those who can add it in can write the functionality themselves anyway and the only thing I would get would be no-end of PM's from people who want it done for them for free. That is valid point, but isn't this THE place to learn? I mean shouldn't we help each other? If I find out something new and share it with community then maybe someone will pick on my idea and extend it even further. Then at some point we might even get autopatcher to do this manual labour. That way even I, as initial idea author, will be glad that I do not need to do any manual work anymore. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwaudiguy on November 05, 2015, 01:20:54 PM Why make fun of it? Pedal adj as in setting launch rpm beforehand, not at launch moment for sure, at launch you want it at the floor. Definitely was not making fun. I was saying "that sounds totally awesome, and I would pay prj to have that kind of functionality". Clearly you've never watched the first Robocop? :P Most of my humor doesn't travel well via ethernet. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: wannabee900 on November 05, 2015, 01:39:00 PM Definitely was not making fun. I was saying "that sounds totally awesome, and I would pay prj to have that kind of functionality". Clearly you've never watched the first Robocop? :P Most of my humor doesn't travel well via ethernet. Sorry that i misinterpreted you. Well I've watched it but probably a year or two after release and that was what, 20years ago, 30? A look at imdb shows 1987. I do not keep old Movies in my human harddrive. :P enough OT Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: mushtafa on November 05, 2015, 02:22:12 PM Since i see many people making big money with implementing the code using the script from eduu and me, im not sure to release the new version to the public. There are a lot of people that only selling this function to costumers and dont helping to get the code working better. Any Solutions? :) Sell it yourself. I'd buy it. I'm using your existing script - it's bloody brilliant! Find 50 forum users who wants it, £20 each. Wait for payment from everyone before releasing it. That's £1,000 for your brilliant work. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: maZer.GTi on November 05, 2015, 09:31:59 PM Sell it yourself. I'd buy it. I'm using your existing script - it's bloody brilliant! Find 50 forum users who wants it, £20 each. Wait for payment from everyone before releasing it. That's £1,000 for your brilliant work. Yes but thats the point, someone will take money for work that he just reworked. Users like setzi62 havent see any dollars but the next guys are earning the money ;) I will release the next version, current version has Rolling Antilag Disabled Knock/Misfire Detection during Launch / NLS / Rolling-Antilag Ignition-Angle Control During Launch and Rolling Antilag Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Jonamond on November 05, 2015, 09:36:40 PM Very exciting! Can't wait
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on November 05, 2015, 11:01:26 PM Yes but thats the point, someone will take money for work that he just reworked. Users like setzi62 havent see any dollars but the next guys are earning the money ;) I will release the next version, current version has Rolling Antilag Disabled Knock/Misfire Detection during Launch / NLS / Rolling-Antilag Ignition-Angle Control During Launch and Rolling Antilag rolling launch control is awesome on a 1.8T with a holset HX35! the car i was messing with had VEMS standalone, i used the ALS settings and wired that to the set button for cruise control. V8 guys never knew what hit them roll racing lol! i have rolling launch on my S6 avant too and it like 25psi in a 10th of a second on the stock K24 hahaha! Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: adam- on November 06, 2015, 01:37:45 AM Rolling Antilag Disabled Knock/Misfire Detection during Launch / NLS / Rolling-Antilag Ignition-Angle Control During Launch and Rolling Antilag Wub! <3 Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Jason on November 06, 2015, 08:48:45 AM I'll put $100 into the pot.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: KmosK04 on November 06, 2015, 09:13:47 AM I want to donate also.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Jonamond on November 06, 2015, 09:41:27 AM Hell, I'll even chip in. I'd hate to see a stop in all the future progress of these things because of the greed of others. Very unmotivating...
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Lost on November 06, 2015, 12:22:33 PM I will donate 100 as well.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: _nameless on November 06, 2015, 05:53:43 PM $100 as also
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: mightemouce on November 08, 2015, 08:21:02 PM For pedal adjustable launch control and rolling antilag Ill throw in some funding also
Title: Re: Post by: Punda on November 08, 2015, 10:38:35 PM I'd be happy to donate too
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: wannabee900 on November 12, 2015, 08:39:28 AM I will release the next version, current version has Due when?Rolling Antilag Disabled Knock/Misfire Detection during Launch / NLS / Rolling-Antilag Ignition-Angle Control During Launch and Rolling Antilag Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: elRey on November 12, 2015, 11:35:16 AM How about basing distribution on user's contribution level to the community? Maybe with some agreement that they can't release it themselves.
But really I agree with prj. Anyone worthy of recieving this probably can manage without it. How about a swap, worthy code for worthy code? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on November 12, 2015, 12:20:36 PM Difficult topic, I personally would either choose to leave it offline and sell it yourself (to make money) or put it online and dont care about the money you could have had. I can imagine you feel screwed about someone else exploiting your work, though (unless you sold it for commercial use).
You could put a donation link for PayPal in the OP and get some cash on the side from people who want to thank you for the work and/or have commercially made profit out of it. All depends on honesty and point of view I guess. I think your code is very cool and because of its nature it will punish all people that are not carefull with it (for example most people who'd like to buy these sort of features). ;D If I can contribute with any tests/logs you just let me know, I'm going to replace my turbo and manifold soon ;) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: hopsis on November 12, 2015, 10:44:51 PM If you've developed something and want to release it to a small inside group, then a public forum isn't probably the right place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending anyone who is selling this stuff on the internet. It's a dick move but besides the obvious morality issues there is one other thing to consider here.
I've bought a couple of tunes before I jumped aboard this hell-bent learning experience on a train to oblivion. Let's imagine me being a "customer" and visualize my face when I've paid 100 or 200 €/$/£ for some tuner to add LC to my car. I'm happily banging on and showing it to my friends, "good deal huh?". Imagine my face after someone asks: "Is that the Nefmoto LC script everyone is downloading for free?" Now would I ever again want to get anything from the guy that clearly ripped me off? If someone really is trying to sell this stuff somewhere, the best thing to do is to make his potentional buyers aware that they can get this stuff for free if they want. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Lost on November 12, 2015, 11:53:25 PM If you've developed something and want to release it to a small inside group, then a public forum isn't probably the right place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending anyone who is selling this stuff on the internet. It's a dick move but besides the obvious morality issues there is one other thing to consider here. I've bought a couple of tunes before I jumped aboard this hell-bent learning experience on a train to oblivion. Let's imagine me being a "customer" and visualize my face when I've paid 100 or 200 €/$/£ for some tuner to add LC to my car. I'm happily banging on and showing it to my friends, "good deal huh?". Imagine my face after someone asks: "Is that the Nefmoto LC script everyone is downloading for free?" Now would I ever again want to get anything from the guy that clearly ripped me off? If someone really is trying to sell this stuff somewhere, the best thing to do is to make his potentional buyers aware that they can get this stuff for free if they want. Correct, but you are forgetting that 99,9% out there that drivers cars doesnt know what we even are talking about here. Even if you gave tham the script - spoonfeed tham how too - they would not dare or be able to do it. This is hard topic. It should have been paying service from the biggining. It is too late now. But as i said earlier i will donate 100 as a good will for fine work guys have done here. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: hopsis on November 13, 2015, 12:17:26 AM I agree. I think the best course would be to troll every attempt at selling these things. Just slight remarks on internet forums about how this stuff is freely available.
Of course there are and always will be a vast majority of people who don't have the tools or knowledge to do these things themselves. For those people, I think that something like 50$ would be a fair price to pay for someone to do this, the thought being that you would pay for the service, not for the content. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on November 14, 2015, 12:49:14 PM I agree. I think the best course would be to troll every attempt at selling these things. Just slight remarks on internet forums about how this stuff is freely available. Of course there are and always will be a vast majority of people who don't have the tools or knowledge to do these things themselves. For those people, I think that something like 50$ would be a fair price to pay for someone to do this, the thought being that you would pay for the service, not for the content. That is a very valid point that i was going to make. just because the LC script is free not everyone has the knowledge, tools or will to learn how to install it on their cars. those people would rather simply pay to have it done so they dont have to worry about it. i will admit that i have been paid to install it on peoples cars but i never once charged a person for the launch control itself. i only charged for my time to install it and the use of my equipment to do so. thats the only fair thing to do because i do value my time and my equipment was not free either. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on November 16, 2015, 09:30:57 AM thats the only fair thing to do because i do value my time and my equipment was not free either. It is too bad you do not extend this courtesy to others.And that's the whole catch about this. People value their time, but forget about others who put tons of work in to get anywhere. If you give a little away, you immediately get demands to give more and more. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: rnagy86 on November 16, 2015, 11:54:33 PM It's just like open-source software. You are free to shoot yourself in the leg with it,
but in the end you are going to pay someone for support ;D Lot of people can't cook a meal even if you give them the recipe and all the ingredients. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on November 17, 2015, 01:00:34 PM It is too bad you do not extend this courtesy to others. And that's the whole catch about this. People value their time, but forget about others who put tons of work in to get anywhere. If you give a little away, you immediately get demands to give more and more. trust me i understand the demands for more and more. i still give information when i can too. if i had more time to learn the programming end of this i would help out when i and where i could, i would even be willing to donate the destruction of one of my cars to test anything. you know im not afraid to destroy an engine or tranny for the sake of experimentation and learning ;D. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on December 05, 2015, 01:52:05 PM i recently had an idea when i was coding a new key fob to an MK4 golf with VAG COM. my idea is to make it easier for the end user to change their launch control variables using VAG COM and the adaptation channels. this is just an idea because most people have VAG COM or have access to a cable today. i dont know if it will actually work or not as im no programmer but i figured i'd put the idea out there and see where it goes.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: jibberjive on December 15, 2015, 06:46:40 AM I personally would either choose to leave it offline and sell it yourself (to make money) or put it online and dont care about the money you could have had. I am of the same opinion. IMO, if you want to profit from it, then keep it yourself and sell it. On the other hand, if you're not too motivated by profit and are more motivated by getting this code out there for others to use and potentially improve on, then release it and don't stress about what other people are/aren't going to do with it. In my opinion two things don't make a whole lot of sense though: 1. Never selling it yourself AND never releasing it. or 2. Releasing it and stressing about where it might go once released. You could put a donation link for PayPal in the OP and get some cash on the side from people who want to thank you for the work and/or have commercially made profit out of it. I would love to either help contribute with testing/troubleshooting/development, or I would love to contribute financially. I just hope it doesn't stay unavailable forever (though that is definitely your right to keep it to yourself, if you want to). Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: wannabee900 on December 16, 2015, 11:41:09 AM I will release the next version, current version has How come it's not released yet? Your "current version" is probably good enough for most people.Rolling Antilag Disabled Knock/Misfire Detection during Launch / NLS / Rolling-Antilag Ignition-Angle Control During Launch and Rolling Antilag Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Pynoxim on January 04, 2016, 01:25:42 AM I know this might not be the right place to ask but I've used Mazer.GTI's auto injector and whilst it did work for around 4 days, eventually I got a checksum error (After doing checksums with Me7sum and rechecking with me7check) and the car refused to start. Flashed back to my old map and everything is fine, however I would really love to have NLS and AL and I'm more than willing to pay someone to do a proper job and disassembly is far beyond me, so if anyone out there is willing to assist me, please PM me with a price. Thank you.
Car : '07 Audi B7 A4 1.8T ECU : 8e0 909 518 AR Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on January 04, 2016, 01:41:38 PM Known issue with NLS patch interfering with RSA routines.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Pynoxim on January 04, 2016, 01:43:22 PM Known issue with NLS patch interfering with RSA routines. Indeed, I was just hoping that someone with the know how would be able to get past it, however, if not, I'll live without it. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: ddillenger on January 04, 2016, 02:09:47 PM Post your original file.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on January 04, 2016, 02:41:09 PM I think in an ideal world the NLS patch should just NOP the RSA routines entirely; they're generally useless anyway.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Pynoxim on January 05, 2016, 07:17:07 AM Post your original file. Apologies for the late response. Timezones etc. Here's my 'Original' file. It has been extensively edited by myself, I don't have an actual dead stock file as the tuner who tuned my car initially refused to write my stock map back to my car after giving me a rubbish map which I actually paid for, so I was able to pull the file and fix it myself (using Nefmoto flasher as it wasn't locked) after they refused to fix their map either. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Pynoxim on February 01, 2016, 04:02:18 PM I don't mean to be a bother but was anyone perhaps able to figure out if there was perhaps another ram location that didn't interfere with RSA checking?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: madboost on July 01, 2016, 10:12:34 AM This is the ORI for this ecu. The file you posted is
a) Badly tuned, b) Wrongly checksummed When you use cracked Winols for checksums these problems happen... Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: hickling9583 on July 13, 2016, 02:03:18 PM hi could some run this on my map plz
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Pynoxim on July 15, 2016, 04:28:30 AM This is the ORI for this ecu. The file you posted is a) Badly tuned, b) Wrongly checksummed When you use cracked Winols for checksums these problems happen... a) Maybe, it's just a file I tried to fix that someone else loaded onto my car, but the AFR's were good, there was hardly any knock, it drove fine and it made great power, 230Hp/386nm on 91 Octane Fuel which was enough for me. b) I use ME7Sum AND I don't think that the file I uploaded was checksummed in the first place. Either way, I don't own the car anymore, belongs to a friend, still drives well etc. *Oh and thanks so much for the ORI, really do appreciate it. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: adam- on July 15, 2016, 04:48:58 AM hi could some run this on my map plz Your file is wrong.Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: armageddon on September 22, 2016, 07:10:26 AM So, has anybody successful managed to disable Knock/Misfire Detection that are willing to share? ;D
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: _nameless on September 24, 2016, 07:02:29 AM ;D ;) ::)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Raven_T on October 05, 2016, 10:48:54 AM any1 got a running LC(AL)/NLS on 1.8T? got a 4B0 906 018 CG but can´t compare the adresses from the 2.7 files to my 1.8 file. Idk where the changes should be made. i can´t figure the adresses out of the bin file in hex editor... don´t be too hard i just get used to this whole "tuning/flashing/editing" stuff
greetings from germany Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on October 06, 2016, 03:50:26 AM Use the auto injector and correct the function by removing the mysteriously added top line from the injected function (as discussed in that topic as well).
I use the 018 CG and it works fine. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: mrgabamo on October 07, 2016, 01:16:55 PM EDIT: Finally works!
those attached bins are bad, start from ori file. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: mrgabamo on December 16, 2016, 12:26:09 PM Last month I finally understood how it works reading the 003.pdf that floats around nefmoto. Did the code following the tutorial and everything works. Still playing with the rpm trying to find a sweet spot where the pops are more constant and dont build too much boost. Another thing I was wondering is how to do the rolling antilag, I haven't found anything about the code behind it and read almost all the topics regarding al/nls. One way I could possibly do it is increasing the SpeedThreshold to a high speed (lets say 85km/h) and set the rpm based on the actual car rpm on target speed (lets say 80km/h), so if I do LaunchRPM 3000, SpeedThreshold 85, and during a drive at 80km/h I press both the clutch and the gas 100% for some time it will make boost maintaining the car speed and letting the clutch will launch boosted. Is this the way other people have been doing it here?
My settings on al are ftomn 0, rpm 3500, cutDuration 200 (still loud bangs and takes time to build boost) could someone help me a setting that the bangs are faster and not that loud? and making like 5-10psi of boost. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on December 16, 2016, 03:42:30 PM Last month I finally understood how it works reading the 003.pdf that floats around nefmoto. Did the code following the tutorial and everything works. Still playing with the rpm trying to find a sweet spot where the pops are more constant and dont build too much boost. Another thing I was wondering is how to do the rolling antilag, I haven't found anything about the code behind it and read almost all the topics regarding al/nls. One way I could possibly do it is increasing the SpeedThreshold to a high speed (lets say 85km/h) and set the rpm based on the actual car rpm on target speed (lets say 80km/h), so if I do LaunchRPM 3000, SpeedThreshold 85, and during a drive at 80km/h I press both the clutch and the gas 100% for some time it will make boost maintaining the car speed and letting the clutch will launch boosted. Is this the way other people have been doing it here? My settings on al are ftomn 0, rpm 3500, cutDuration 200 (still loud bangs and takes time to build boost) could someone help me a setting that the bangs are faster and not that loud? and making like 5-10psi of boost. Could you post please the link to the 003.pdf file ? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: grey on December 21, 2016, 06:02:23 AM Could you post please the link to the 003.pdf file ? this is what you are looking forhttp://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1363.0;attach=1983 Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on January 14, 2017, 03:40:59 PM this is what you are looking for http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1363.0;attach=1983 Thank you very much... i've noticed now your answer :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: sonique on January 14, 2017, 06:20:46 PM Yes but thats the point, someone will take money for work that he just reworked. Users like setzi62 havent see any dollars but the next guys are earning the money ;) I will release the next version, current version has ??????????????? i waiting the release you are say this Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Lost on January 15, 2017, 01:13:39 AM This has been done long time ago. It will not be released publicly, i think.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on January 15, 2017, 03:51:10 PM I attempted to modify the PHP script that auto patches the BIN files with spark cut rev limiter in place of the coolant temperature check at the beginning. i tested the script on a 1mb file and it seems to work fine. the RPM constant for the rev limiter is the last 2 pairs of bits (its a 16bit value with LSB checked and the equation for it is 0.25 * X in tunerpro). if anyone wants to give it go and report back if it works please do. the spark cut limiter is set to 6600 which is 200RPM less than the stock fuel cut limiter. if you dont want the spark cut rev limiter raise the value higher than your stock fuel cut limiter or 10,000RPM or simply patch with the original patcher that doesnt give this option. i found this as an easier option than hunting for KFTSRL in every single BIN file.
Run this just like the other launch.php. c:\php launch_LMTR.php (dump.bin) (dump.ecu) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on January 26, 2017, 03:58:14 PM I attempted to modify the PHP script that auto patches the BIN files with spark cut rev limiter in place of the coolant temperature check at the beginning. i tested the script on a 1mb file and it seems to work fine. the RPM constant for the rev limiter is the last 2 pairs of bits (its a 16bit value with LSB checked and the equation for it is 0.25 * X in tunerpro). if anyone wants to give it go and report back if it works please do. the spark cut limiter is set to 6600 which is 200RPM less than the stock fuel cut limiter. if you dont want the spark cut rev limiter raise the value higher than your stock fuel cut limiter or 10,000RPM or simply patch with the original patcher that doesnt give this option. i found this as an easier option than hunting for KFTSRL in every single BIN file. Run this just like the other launch.php. c:\php launch_LMTR.php (dump.bin) (dump.ecu) Hello, do you think is it compatible with Seat leon 1.8T BAM 225HP 1ML906032A 0261208221 367220 ecu ? 8) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: vwnut8392 on January 30, 2017, 06:19:16 PM if the previous patcher worked on it before than yes.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on January 31, 2017, 10:07:49 AM Hello,
i’ve used the script on topic 2stage & Al + nls with success… the script has gone well, i’ve corrected the checksum and load on the car. something it didn’t work. i've tried the launch control..and it didn't stop to 4500rpm. I’ve checked with the xdf and from the 0x17b00 there are the conditions values … only 1 thing is strange : The code should be : “A6 01 50 46 0A 00 F0 55 E6 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF” while i have “A6 01 50 46 0A 00 F0 55 E6 A4 FF FF FF FF FF FF”. What is that A4? Anyone of you could check if there’s something wrong? I’ve attached the ori, the mod and the script :) P.S. Car is Leon Cupra R 225 BAM with ME7.5 Thanks to all Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on January 31, 2017, 12:16:01 PM A4 is your temperature threshold (A4 = 164 * 0.75 - 48 = 75°C)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on January 31, 2017, 01:09:42 PM A4 is your temperature threshold (A4 = 164 * 0.75 - 48 = 75°C) Oh thank you very much, i need to add to xdf then ;)... have you check if the file mod is ok? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 02, 2017, 04:37:53 PM I'm still having a problem... i've tried again and it didn't work.
I've checked everything: - all tsrldyn, vfil_w, wped ...etc... are correct. - ftomn is 0 - conditions variable are on the correct place i've attached a log of the script 2 posts above, i notice only something strange on the Main Function Code and the Call. The script say offset for call will be located at : 0x9dd54 and it's correct. Then, the Main Function will be located at : 0xa18c0 (look at the second attachment, the code is at 0xa18d0 ... what is that code on 0xa18c0 ? Other thing i've noticed is the call at main function : "DA 8A C0 18" For me...it's wrong... it should be : "DA 0A C0 18" is it correct? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on February 03, 2017, 03:28:27 AM 8A is correct. The first line of code is the temp check, out of you used vwnuts code it is the hard cut rev limiter. I have had issues with the temp check, you can verify if that is the problem by setting the temp threshold to -48. (00 hex)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 04, 2017, 03:55:04 PM 8A is correct. The first line of code is the temp check, out of you used vwnuts code it is the hard cut rev limiter. I have had issues with the temp check, you can verify if that is the problem by setting the temp threshold to -48. (00 hex) Thanks TijnCU... i've done the modified at temp threshold... tomorrow i will give it a try :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 05, 2017, 07:04:03 AM 8A is correct. The first line of code is the temp check, out of you used vwnuts code it is the hard cut rev limiter. I have had issues with the temp check, you can verify if that is the problem by setting the temp threshold to -48. (00 hex) Yes TijnCU... it seems the problem was the Temperature check...i've setted -48 (00 hex) and it works. I've only tried the Launch control, not the nls because it's raining today...the car hasn't traction to reach high rpm and full foot... but i think if 1 is working also the other will do. Do you know what is wrong with that control ? How can i correct it? Thousand thanks Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: funnix on February 06, 2017, 10:27:51 PM Hi friends,
is it possible to add the LC and NLS to ..032AR (ARZ 512kb) with the script? If someone did this successful, please let me know. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 07, 2017, 12:06:23 AM Hi friends, is it possible to add the LC and NLS to ..032AR (ARZ 512kb) with the script? If someone did this successful, please let me know. Post the file :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: funnix on February 07, 2017, 12:36:44 AM Here it is.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 07, 2017, 03:49:24 AM Here it is. Here we go... try this one. You should find the Variables at 0x017890. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: funnix on February 07, 2017, 04:27:53 AM Thank you, could you send me the other addresses you used or do you run just the script?
EDIT: This won't work, look at the first line of the main function: Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 07, 2017, 04:37:44 AM Thank you, could you send me the other addresses you used or do you run just the script? Pm me your email...i'll send you allTitle: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on February 07, 2017, 05:25:18 AM Thank you, could you send me the other addresses you used or do you run just the script? EDIT: This won't work, look at the first line of the main function: The first line ... is the coolant temperature check :) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: chasenl on April 16, 2017, 03:57:43 PM Hi friends,
I did some tries to add the script to my 512kb but without succes maybe because 512kb? Car runs and start correct but script not works.. Someone know what im doing wrong? Audi TT 8N0906018Q Thanks! Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: d0xx on April 18, 2017, 03:45:01 PM Hi friends, I did some tries to add the script to my 512kb but without succes maybe because 512kb? Car runs and start correct but script not works.. Someone know what im doing wrong? Audi TT 8N0906018Q Thanks! This one will work. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: chasenl on April 20, 2017, 01:15:46 PM Thanks will try tommorow i will post a video if its works great! Thanks 8)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on April 26, 2017, 04:13:11 PM Hello guys 3 questions:
1) Ignition Cut Duration: Which is the method to calculate the exact required value for a perfect NLS? Why 200-300ms? What happen with more ? 2) RPM Threshold (example 5500): This is the exact value for NLS function or...this is the minimal ranged value required to activate NLS? If it's set at 5500 i could change gear also at 7000 right? Or is it better to set the value at the right rpm? 3) FTOMN ...always at 0 or also different value? integer and decimal ? Any tips and tricks for optimal setting of LC and NLS? Regards Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: A6turbofrance on May 01, 2017, 10:08:00 AM anyone has find a solution to work on a me7.1.1
mine seem don't work on a allroad 551R ecu 2.7t here is the patched file with lc not working Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on May 01, 2017, 11:05:51 AM anyone has find a solution to work on a me7.1.1 I have a RS4 with NLS not working well :( but LC works perfectly.mine seem don't work on a allroad 551R ecu 2.7t here is the patched file with lc not working Later i will check your file ... Function address and variable address? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: esm1r on May 01, 2017, 02:51:15 PM is there any script for me9.x ecu? i have working on me7.x.x after some time patching patching, i make it with script. but im looking for something script or modification for me9 ecu, LC just, or LC / NLS ..
best regards Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: prj on May 03, 2017, 04:21:47 AM is there any script for me9.x ecu? i have working on me7.x.x after some time patching patching, i make it with script. but im looking for something script or modification for me9 ecu, LC just, or LC / NLS .. best regards Nice first post. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: d0xx on May 04, 2017, 05:55:40 PM Thanks will try tommorow i will post a video if its works great! Thanks 8) you forgot to test, or to reply? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: slklite on May 11, 2017, 09:15:56 AM Hello guys, anyone succesfully created an ecu file (with me7logger) or implemented AL & NLS in this ECU (06A906032AR) ?
It's from a golf MK4 from 2001 (ARZ) I have seen a file a few pages before but i'ts not the same soft number as mine ... My problem is that i have an error when I try to create an eucu file using me7logger, and from what I've read it's because my ecu might not be supported. Thank you guys. PS : attached is my ori Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: chasenl on May 27, 2017, 04:35:49 PM you forgot to test, or to reply? Hi Friend! Works great but is it possible to adjust the bang to a smaller bang or some popcorn? (its likes a granade explosion right now.. lol) i like to have popcorn sound on shifting at like 4000+ rpm..? (sorry for late reply verry bussy repairing my blinker stalk and adding retrofit cruise :) / work ) Thanks for great work! (creating a video with this big blast is not a good idea before blowing some parts.. :) ) Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Khendal on May 27, 2017, 05:26:34 PM Anyone of you know how to adjust the flames of the bang? ... i have always a loud bang... but without flames.
Depend on FTOMN and ignition cut duration ? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on May 28, 2017, 12:14:07 PM Anyone of you know how to adjust the flames of the bang? ... i have always a loud bang... but without flames. Depend on FTOMN and ignition cut duration ? In the code available here increasing ftomn from 0 to 0.1 or 0.2 will do the trick louder but not as fast while you increase that value. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: TijnCU on May 31, 2017, 02:26:08 AM ignition cut duration is solely for no lift shift, you adjust it to your shifting speed to get the engine on power before the clutch switch is disengaged (clutch is already gripping before this point ofcourse)
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: norbi on June 26, 2017, 12:57:00 PM I just wondering... is there any solution for automatic (dsg)? We have speed limiter for lc so i can turn off clutch control?? only how??
Hello guys, anyone succesfully created an ecu file (with me7logger) or implemented AL & NLS in this ECU (06A906032AR) ? Your file in attachment :) test and report!It's from a golf MK4 from 2001 (ARZ) I have seen a file a few pages before but i'ts not the same soft number as mine ... My problem is that i have an error when I try to create an eucu file using me7logger, and from what I've read it's because my ecu might not be supported. Thank you guys. PS : attached is my ori Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: crank66 on July 05, 2017, 07:59:11 AM Hello have here some problems with the script.
Code: C:\test>php launch.php org205.bin org205.ecu 0x74fc0 0x8080 for What the offsets errrors? when i try the old version with hard cut i dont have these lines in my cmd prompt Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on July 21, 2017, 01:40:54 PM Hi for all.
I have one question. I implement LC/NLS to my Leon AMK 1.8T 210HP with 1ML906032 ECU and everything work perfectly but i have one problem and I don't know it is false of LC/NLS function or something else in my car. I mean if FTOMN is set to 0 (0ms) it doesn't matter when I drive normally? I mean when I drive my car on highway and didnt use LC/NLS my all 4 coil burn. I drive on ~4000RPM and 160-180km/h for 20 minutes. It can be fault of LC/NLS function? Or because FTOMN is set to 0 ECU overcharge my coils when I drive normally? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: KasperH on July 21, 2017, 01:44:28 PM Hi for all. I have one question. I implement LC/NLS to my Leon AMK 1.8T 210HP with 1ML906032 ECU and everything work perfectly but i have one problem and I don't know it is false of LC/NLS function or something else in my car. I mean if FTOMN is set to 0 (0ms) it doesn't matter when I drive normally? I mean when I drive my car on highway and didnt use LC/NLS my all 4 coil burn. I drive on ~4000RPM and 160-180km/h for 20 minutes. It can be fault of LC/NLS function? Or because FTOMN is set to 0 ECU overcharge my coils when I drive normally? Are you asking if it will melt your coils? Or why your coils melt? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on July 21, 2017, 11:29:04 PM Are you asking if it will melt your coils? Or why your coils melt? Why my coils melt when i drive normally. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: KasperH on July 22, 2017, 01:54:00 AM Why my coils melt when i drive normally. Do you have ICM for your coils? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on July 22, 2017, 10:59:44 AM Do you have ICM for your coils? I have Leon from 2002 year and i think without separate ICM. Coil with 4 pins : ground, +5 triggered from ecu, 2nd ground and +12Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: KasperH on July 22, 2017, 01:36:11 PM Mine is also a Leon, although it's a model year 2003 and I have never burned a coil.
What is the parts number on the coils? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on July 22, 2017, 02:44:23 PM Mine is also a Leon, although it's a model year 2003 and I have never burned a coil. I have NGK U5003 now. OE numbers is 06B 905 115 GWhat is the parts number on the coils? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on August 26, 2017, 04:47:35 AM For me this function melt coils when drive normally over 30 minutes. They overheat and stop working. Even if i set FTOMN to 01 or 02. Anyone can tell me why it happened when drive without use LC?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on August 26, 2017, 01:02:14 PM if you applied the code with the script or executable that is laying around here the only issue you can have is a bad eeprom on newer 29f800 software versions and blown fuses on 29f400 with ftomn set less than 0.1 or 0.2 . I use 0.2.
The issue you are referring to is something in your code somewhere around the tsrldyn code...You accidentaly have changed something without knowing...I figured that in the past the hard way when i was playing around with it. Re-apply the patch/code with the nefmoto script/exe and set your ftomn to 0.2 if you are an 29f400 user. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on September 02, 2017, 11:04:55 AM Here is my file with LC function can anyone take a look for mistakes in code?
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on September 07, 2017, 10:14:44 PM if you applied the code with the script or executable that is laying around here the only issue you can have is a bad eeprom on newer 29f800 software versions and blown fuses on 29f400 with ftomn set less than 0.1 or 0.2 . I use 0.2. The issue you are referring to is something in your code somewhere around the tsrldyn code...You accidentaly have changed something without knowing...I figured that in the past the hard way when i was playing around with it. Re-apply the patch/code with the nefmoto script/exe and set your ftomn to 0.2 if you are an 29f400 user. It is possible when I have difference in last 9 row? Script make for me function with last row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 90 89 DB 00 FF FF and I have before one difference in this row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 9F 89 DB 00 FF FF i think this is original routine ( F3 F8 90 89) so when i have other adress so maybe cause any problems? Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: focalpoint519 on September 08, 2017, 03:34:59 AM F3 F8 90 89 is what you replace with DA XX XX (routine call in) this points to the LC main code, and who evers code is melting changing the dwell to .02ms isnt the correct way in my opinion. send me your bin i will prepare custom LC for you, hammersword gave me a altered version of code, a much improved version i must say, for months i was putting bad code (this code), when really i should have trusted people that know ME7 100%. if people where not so many greedy with knowledge, we wouldn't be sharing coil killing code, the most veteran members on here dont even know how to do it right? this is why open sharing is important, now all veterans seem like noobs to me, all the ones that cant offer the real answer anyways, a noobie like me can figure out the solution in a week working with others, but a group of others cant find the solutions together in months, or if they do they like holding it close so they can feel more accomplished then the next member, shits pretty sad really.
wait another month or so and we will have a working launch control tool thanks to the programmer im paying from people per hour, its nice of people to try to make tools but sometimes better to leave the programming to people who know how to make something work, anyways send me your bin ill do it for you and send u my beta if it works on your bin. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: aef on September 08, 2017, 05:20:19 AM It is possible when I have difference in last 9 row? Script make for me function with last row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 90 89 DB 00 FF FF and I have before one difference in this row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 9F 89 DB 00 FF FF i think this is original routine ( F3 F8 90 89) so when i have other adress so maybe cause any problems? Which tool/script did you use? Please point tho the posting. I just tried this http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3349.msg46219#msg46219 with your file and its creating 90 instead of 97. Code: launch.exe Seat_Leon_B1800_R4V5T_154kW_0261207952_ Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: gt-innovation on September 08, 2017, 06:12:28 AM It is possible when I have difference in last 9 row? Script make for me function with last row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 90 89 DB 00 FF FF and I have before one difference in this row : D7 00 38 00 F6 8E F0 4F F3 F8 9F 89 DB 00 FF FF i think this is original routine ( F3 F8 90 89) so when i have other adress so maybe cause any problems? byte_8990 is UB and it is actually the point that the code is hijacked to jump from the original code to the als nls function so if the ub address is wrong the replaced code will never be executed correctly and instead something else is saved to the R14 (byte_8997) instead of (byte_8990) which is used afterwards when the function returns. you can just check this by looking in hex your ORIGINAL code in the memory address that is currently hijacked. Do it yourself and do not wait for other people to tell you. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on September 08, 2017, 06:35:36 PM F3 F8 90 89 is what you replace with DA XX XX (routine call in) this points to the LC main code, and who evers code is melting changing the dwell to .02ms isnt the correct way in my opinion. send me your bin i will prepare custom LC for you, hammersword gave me a altered version of code, a much improved version i must say, for months i was putting bad code (this code), when really i should have trusted people that know ME7 100%. if people where not so many greedy with knowledge, we wouldn't be sharing coil killing code, the most veteran members on here dont even know how to do it right? this is why open sharing is important, now all veterans seem like noobs to me, all the ones that cant offer the real answer anyways, a noobie like me can figure out the solution in a week working with others, but a group of others cant find the solutions together in months, or if they do they like holding it close so they can feel more accomplished then the next member, shits pretty sad really. Ok i send to you my ori bin when I have my laptop today. I only want to know if when I have differences in code (when I put manually code then I put to last LC row 97 but rountine where I put DA XX XX XX is in ori file F3 F8 90 89 so in last row I must have 90 89 instead 97 89 yes? My bin is 1mb bin 800BB so ftomn 0 is work well and when use LC/NLS function everything is ok only when drive without use function over 30 min my coil is overheating and melt so maybe because I miss my mistake in 9 row LC function and have 97 89 and this mistake cause problems in dwell time and when I use 90 89 everything work ok? wait another month or so and we will have a working launch control tool thanks to the programmer im paying from people per hour, its nice of people to try to make tools but sometimes better to leave the programming to people who know how to make something work, anyways send me your bin ill do it for you and send u my beta if it works on your bin. edited: here is my file with corrected LC function function adress: 0xA1970 function variables adress : 0x17E20 Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Dejw0089 on September 08, 2017, 06:40:21 PM Which tool/script did you use? Please point tho the posting. Yes its create 90 instead 97 but I put code manually month ago and I have mistake and put 97 instead 90 and have problems with melt (overheat) coils when drive normally (without use LC functions) in highway over 30 min ( over 50 kilometers). So now with script I see I must have 90 and must try in highway I just tried this http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3349.msg46219#msg46219 with your file and its creating 90 instead of 97. Code: launch.exe Seat_Leon_B1800_R4V5T_154kW_0261207952_ Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: antoffka666 on July 25, 2018, 03:36:04 AM Hello ! I tried to add the LC to the ecu 8E0909518AH_360332 , but the system does not work, pedal sensors are OK, tell me what I'm doing wrong. Car audi TT BAM
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: royce5950 on July 25, 2018, 04:32:57 AM I tried to take a look at that file but it says the XDF was made with a newer version of tuner pro.. But I even went and downloaded the newest version and it turns out I was already using that version.. I even tried to install tuner pro RT and that still wouldnt let me load the XDF?
So I don't think I will be able to help you out, hopefully someone else can? In the meantime make sure that you set TMOTNMX correctly. Thats important.. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: antoffka666 on July 25, 2018, 04:54:10 AM I tried to take a look at that file but it says the XDF was made with a newer version of tuner pro.. But I even went and downloaded the newest version and it turns out I was already using that version.. I even tried to install tuner pro RT and that still wouldnt let me load the XDF? So I don't think I will be able to help you out, hopefully someone else can? In the meantime make sure that you set TMOTNMX correctly. Thats important.. thank you very much Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Cadensdad14 on September 30, 2018, 06:26:47 PM So I understand this is a dead thread and this request is likely worthless, but I'm a second off a 140 second lap at our local rallycross and I'm looking for anything. Can I get any kind of file from anyone with the revisions in it. I know there are only about a dozen out there. I'll do the patching, even if it's just the raw assembly. Really looking for anything.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on September 30, 2018, 08:12:34 PM NLS is a gimmick. It's not going to gain you a second.
Try other power adders, lose weight, get better tires, work on suspension setup, or drive better. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Cadensdad14 on October 01, 2018, 10:36:57 AM I'm doing all those too. Got the 4:1 torsen washers and an F21 going in. Going to toy with other things in the ECU too. Gear dependent boost limits to minimize wheel spin. Even if it gains a tenth on the launch, then I only have to find 9 more tenths. Plus, the old launch control is a lot of fun to set off at a rally event.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: Cadensdad14 on October 01, 2018, 10:38:37 AM I think more retard on spark would be better than cutting coil dwell time. But I seem to hit some sort of adaptation when I do it. I get one or two bangs and then something steps in.
Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: miigotu on October 07, 2018, 01:39:23 AM Holy shit... I just got this working without blowing my fuse on 29F400 032CL, @ about 1am
I don't live in the best neighborhood lol and EVERYONE came outside to see who was shooting hahahaha Kudos to the script, I was trying to edit it manually before I came across it but the script makes it for kiddos that's for sure... FTOMN has to be 0.1 at least for it to work or the fuse blows. Stock on this ecu is 0.5 Took me a long time to read through all of the related threads, since I actually read every comment on every page in case I might learn something haha. Title: Re: Launch Control & No Lift Shift new Functions Post by: nyet on May 22, 2019, 04:23:44 PM This topic is done too. Locked, unless somebody is actually willing to do real work.
If so, PM me and I will unlock. Noobs, if you think you this is the place to post "please add NLS to my file", eat a dick. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=12559.0title= |