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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2022, 02:52:28 AM »
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#3 is going to take at least 2-3 years without prior reverse experience.
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2022, 07:43:16 AM »
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#3 is going to take at least 2-3 years without prior reverse experience.
i appreciate the estimation.  |
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2022, 08:21:11 AM »
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You can spend few thousands for syvecs standalone. R8 pnp kit is about 11000. Anyway it's not the same engine and use master/slave ecu. Dont know if these ecu are worth the money and the project at all does not make sense.
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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2022, 09:20:57 AM »
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You can spend few thousands for syvecs standalone. R8 pnp kit is about 11000. Anyway it's not the same engine and use master/slave ecu. Dont know if these ecu are worth the money and the project at all does not make sense.
Will not help him. R8 has completely different CAN Matrix and it's M&S with different layout. |
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2022, 01:40:32 PM »
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hey, what if i keep the oem ecu controlling throttle and injectors. and standalone controlling ignition and secondary injectors. and clamp the maf. oem ecu wouldnt know of boost. can it detect the excess power in any way?
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2022, 03:13:38 AM »
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Will go immediately into limp mode due to function monitoring if it is not controlling ignition, because torque reduction will not work.
It also most likely won't run properly because there will be no fast path torque response possible at all.
I mean you can keep generating crazy ideas, it's not going to get you anywhere.
Only way is either to go full standalone that implements the whole can matrix and torque request reaction (probably 20k+ to get someone to develop that, but it's possible on motec).
Or fully on stock ECU, which you won't be capable of in the near future.
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2022, 03:07:40 PM »
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Disagree with those calling it a garbage motor. Same general design as the V6 and V10. Bedplates are stout. Throw some forged rods and pistons in it and it shouldn't have a problem with 1000hp. There's a machine shop in WV that even has some custom Darton sleeves for it if you want to go bigger.
If you are capable of fabing up your own turbo kits, it would cost less than a 4.0t.
AMTuned pumps out a lot of big turbo 4.2 B7s, wouldn't be shocked if he's done some S5s as well.
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2022, 04:57:37 PM »
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If you are capable of fabing up your own turbo kits, it would cost less than a 4.0t. Not sure what you are smoking but the whole 4.0TT engine will cost less than just turbos + manifolds. Not even thinking about the nightmare of fuel system + tuning atm. |
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2022, 05:04:33 PM »
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Not sure what you are smoking but the whole 4.0TT engine will cost less than just turbos + manifolds.
Not even thinking about the nightmare of fuel system + tuning atm.
I think prices are significantly different in Europe vs the States (don't know where OP is) I remember the guy from Belarus who did the first 4.0t swap only did it because he blew his original 3.0t and getting a 4.0t was cheaper than a replacement 3.0t. In the States, the 4.0t will cost 10-15k. 034 quit developing their 4.0t swap kit due to the absurd price of the engine. |
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2022, 05:09:24 PM »
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In the States, the 4.0t will cost 10-15k. And you think doing the plumbing on a NA engine + the turbos is cheaper? I'd charge 5k-6k for tuning that if I was still doing it as well. And the end result will be shit compared to a 4.0TT. |
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2022, 05:19:43 PM »
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And you think doing the plumbing on a NA engine + the turbos is cheaper?
I'd charge 5k-6k for tuning that if I was still doing it as well.
And the end result will be shit compared to a 4.0TT.
If you are doing the labor / fabrication yourself, yeah. The obvious wildcard is the capability to tune it. It also looks like the exhaust manifolds could be repurposed as is, or with just a little modification Log manifolds work great as turbo manifolds. Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2022, 05:02:33 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2022, 04:50:42 PM »
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hey, thanks for sending this. I had seen it on FB as well haha. but what I'm lacking is the ecu solution, I can do the piping myself. |
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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2022, 04:51:41 PM »
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Yes, and a full flash on dual ECU car takes ~30 minutes unless you have custom flash tools with custom protocols on top a firmware patch. Or you need INCA and ETK ecu's.
Actually I wouldn't even attempt this if I didn't have the latter.
If you have to ask about these things you will never ever succeed. Just take my word for it.
Sell the car, buy 4.0TT.
Or if you're super masochist, swap a 4.0TT into your chassis (which is also an insane amount of work, and not worth it, but you could at least possibly complete it).
hey, i found a post from you mentioning you own tuner.ee, are you still in this business? |
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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2022, 04:08:55 AM »
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No, it's a placeholder to funnel stuff to another company.
It still ranks on Google.
That doesn't exist for over 6 years. I don't tune anything dude.
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