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« Reply #2595 on: May 16, 2024, 02:58:49 PM »

use a top hat from a pump that doesnt have the regulator and use a referenced fuel pressure regulator on the Rail so it'll scale 1:1 with boost if you're going for a higher power non decos car
In such case he needs to set fuel pressure correction map FRLFSDP to 1. But he doesn't have address of this map)
Although address of this map in 40LPHJ software is 0x23842
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« Reply #2596 on: May 17, 2024, 07:12:52 PM »

If anybody wants to look into this file here is it https://cloud.mail.ru/public/sgtq/Gwi3tYSog
MAP grad is at 0x17CB0
MAP offs is at 0x17CB2
multipliers as for DSLGRAD and DSLOFS.

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« Reply #2597 on: May 18, 2024, 10:31:59 AM »

Does anyone have a stock bin for a US 04 s60 2.5t FWD?  All i have is my current stage 3 hilton tune read with OpenMoose.

What it was tuned for:
-16T with a 11/9 setup
-Catless
-Blues
-Snabb ultimate FMIC w/ external recirc ote pipe setup and cbv blocked

Recently installed greens I had laying around since I was replacing the intake manifold gasket anyway.

Getting a rich code now (obviously) as well as an intermittent rear O2 fault.  Which doesn't make sense since I bought the "tune" when I was already catless.  Figured that would have been completely coded out.

I have uploaded my current bin file here.  I am using the XDF that s60rawr posted which was the TYPO one so its actually the correct version (QKHJ).   (WinOLS (Volvo S60 R (Original) - 359462) 50GPHJ).  With that being said and without an original bin, I am completely lost in what I should be modifying specifically for the bigger greens as well as torque limiter removal and a complete rear o2 and cat delete  Huh Huh

Thanks in advance for your guys help  Smiley

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« Reply #2598 on: May 19, 2024, 09:17:54 AM »

Does anyone have a stock bin for a US 04 s60 2.5t FWD?  All i have is my current stage 3 hilton tune read with OpenMoose.
It's R file.
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« Reply #2599 on: May 19, 2024, 11:29:58 AM »

It's R file.

Thank you!  I loaded up tunerpro and selected that bin for comparison to my personal bin.  SO many undefined items between the two I dont really feel comfortable editing anything based on that especially since its a AWD R file and mines an already modified FWD 2.5T file.  Just dont know enough about the verbiage and such unfortunately. 

And since I dont have a quick way to reflash to stock option without buying a VIDA sub, I guess I am just gonna hold off on anything related to this for now.  There seems to be an abundance of information in this thread that would help me, but only if I had some sort of previous knowledge of how this all works or at least the stock bin file for my own car.

I also was going to at least try to do some logs using OpenMoose, but I just realized that you need the param xml file, which I cant seem to find anywhere in this thread or using the google machine.  So I'm up a creek two times.
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« Reply #2600 on: May 19, 2024, 12:11:34 PM »

You can use my tool to log it. Not free, but you do not need a parameter file, as that is provided automatically by the server.
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« Reply #2601 on: May 19, 2024, 02:26:23 PM »

You can use my tool to log it. Not free, but you do not need a parameter file, as that is provided automatically by the server.

Your logging software looks amazing however it would be hard to justify the purchase with zero knowledge of what I'm doing as far as tuning goes.  Would be nice to just have a simple xml file for openmoose just to be able to mess around with since it has the capability already
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« Reply #2602 on: May 19, 2024, 02:43:05 PM »

This might help: https://github.com/spnda/volvo_vida_db
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« Reply #2603 on: May 19, 2024, 09:48:54 PM »


A Bin file extracted from my current vida install doesn't really get me anywhere without prior knowledge of how this all works.  Since I've posted I have gotten the following:

 - prj promoting his logging software in the form of "credits" with a x credit minimum purchase.
- prometey with a bin file for an essentially different car which I appreciate but it basically serves me no good with no prior knowledge of how any of this works.
- and you, athlon for giving me the link to a GitHub in order to extract a bin file from my current install of vida.  Then what?

All of this for a simple xml file in order to load it into the open source OpenMoose program so I can see what's going on with my car from a hobbyist perspective.  Does anyone even use this or is this entire thread full of people who have already worked out what's needed and have kept it in the "inner circle"Huh 

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« Reply #2604 on: May 19, 2024, 11:36:02 PM »

A Bin file extracted from my current vida install doesn't really get me anywhere without prior knowledge of how this all works.  Since I've posted I have gotten the following:

 - prj promoting his logging software in the form of "credits" with a x credit minimum purchase.
- prometey with a bin file for an essentially different car which I appreciate but it basically serves me no good with no prior knowledge of how any of this works.
- and you, athlon for giving me the link to a GitHub in order to extract a bin file from my current install of vida.  Then what?

All of this for a simple xml file in order to load it into the open source OpenMoose program so I can see what's going on with my car from a hobbyist perspective.  Does anyone even use this or is this entire thread full of people who have already worked out what's needed and have kept it in the "inner circle"Huh 



The "simple xml file" you wish for is a collection of memory addresses people have worked out with disassembly through their knowledge of computer science. People are not out to do charity here, some do and they are very kind to do so, but if you read the forums it's about discussing and helping each other learn. If you're not here to learn, I don't think you're gonna get very far. If you simply wish to tune your software for green injectors, you can get away with it by copying over the values from a software using greens, such as the R binary prometey attached for you. Learn about what's needed to change injectors here https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning and then change maps accordingly. If you can't find an XDF for your file then you'll have to make your own. Conveniently, there are a lot of defined maps for different binaries here, where map contents remain the same but at different addresses. If you know anything about hex editing you should be able to find what you need without a sweat. To help you out, KRKTE @ 0x1636A for 50QKHJ. If you want to find logging parameters on your own, learn disassembly. Prometey even put out an almost fully defined .ida file for his own software here, our favourite russian is doing a lot for the volvo community Smiley
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« Reply #2605 on: May 19, 2024, 11:58:43 PM »

All of this for a simple xml file

Making this XML file requires sitting in IDA for hours and manually searching for addresses, this is assuming you know RE.
People who know RE to this level usually get paid over 100$ per hour. A comprehensive XML that has a lot of addresses (not just a few) would cost anywhere between 300$ to 1000$ to make.
This is assuming the person making it has a similar a2l file.

I developed technology to automate this process, that still requires having at least a similar A2L file though, which again is really not easy to get for Volvo.

So yes, you can pay 100$ for credits for my software and log your car for all of eternity. Minimum purchase is 50$ btw, because that's also the price of the cheapest service, but advanced protocol without prior sub costs 100$.
Or you can continue complaining here and hope that somebody is gonna spend hours to make you the "simple xml file". Probably not going to happen.
This is a DIY forum not a "tune my car for free" forum. So if you need an xml file for your software, start learning RE, then make the xml file and post it here Smiley Come back in 5 years when you have accomplished said task. Or pay for a shortcut.

I am guessing you don't work for free, so where does the entitlement come from that you expect other people to?
What do you bring to the table that would motivate someone to use their time to help you?

A Bin file extracted from my current vida install doesn't really get me anywhere without prior knowledge of how this all works.
Nobody said anything about a bin file, that link has software to extract the locations of loggable identifiers from VIDA (those do not help you with a XML though because they are not ram addresses) and on ME7 there is a lot of important stuff missing for tuning.

There seems to be a pattern here. Embracing ignorance and making a ton of (false) assumptions. Not going to get very far with that attitude on here.
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« Reply #2606 on: May 20, 2024, 03:47:40 AM »

A Bin file extracted from my current vida install doesn't really get me anywhere without prior knowledge of how this all works.  Since I've posted I have gotten the following:

 - prj promoting his logging software in the form of "credits" with a x credit minimum purchase.
- prometey with a bin file for an essentially different car which I appreciate but it basically serves me no good with no prior knowledge of how any of this works.
- and you, athlon for giving me the link to a GitHub in order to extract a bin file from my current install of vida.  Then what?

All of this for a simple xml file in order to load it into the open source OpenMoose program so I can see what's going on with my car from a hobbyist perspective.  Does anyone even use this or is this entire thread full of people who have already worked out what's needed and have kept it in the "inner circle"Huh 

Most was said by PRJ but i would just add that even if you get full XML for free and full MAPs definitions for free there is still big chance that you end up with poor running car or maybe even with blown engine (but this is more probable with bigger turbo and more mechanical modification). Its not that easy as most people who begin their adventure with ECU tuning think Smiley But its not "impossible" to do this, you just need a lot of time into this to get decent knowledge. And i am talking only about doing tune on the BIN assuming you already have full logging and full maps defs "for free" Smiley So all depends on your attitude. If you just want to have your car tuned - better pay someone to do it. If you want to learn something because you have a lot of free time - then its quite different story -  ME7 is the best ECU to start with.  But forget about doing decent tune on your own car unless you spend like half a year 6-8 hours a day learning Smiley
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« Reply #2607 on: May 20, 2024, 06:56:05 AM »

prj is most correct, and the 5 years time span is likely correct too. It took me a year to get to where I am now, which is still not where I wanted to be by this time, and even then, I had DHA and variable names to massively speed things up in IDA. And even then I was no stranger to reverse engineering, having done it years prior on the precursors to Denuvo. Additionally I had to start looking at the problems not from a programmer perspective but fundamental engine theory.

However rather than focusing on a specific problem I focused on all of them, so I did RE on many aspects rather than say just fueling or whatever. This may not be proper but I also did it for fun, with no financial gain in mind.

The blown engine can also happen with a NA engine, not just turbo.
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« Reply #2608 on: May 20, 2024, 10:46:43 AM »

ya'll are fucking retarded trying to loop this kid into  your own paid platforms and otherwise
its a QKHJ 2.5t ( same soft  as the 04 R in the states, yes )


throwing him on that "if you don't already know then you shouldn't know" spiel ya'll did to me.
what hes asking is free and super simple....

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« Reply #2609 on: May 20, 2024, 12:51:36 PM »

ya'll are fucking retarded trying to loop this kid into  your own paid platforms and otherwise
its a QKHJ 2.5t ( same soft  as the 04 R in the states, yes )


throwing him on that "if you don't already know then you shouldn't know" spiel ya'll did to me.
what hes asking is free and super simple....

It's only free because someone else did this for you.
And it's super simple because there's 51 addresses. Compared to my def that has 5272.
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