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« Reply #2355 on: July 17, 2023, 01:34:28 AM »

Beware of adjusting LAMFA or BTS Smiley
Stock those maps are set to 1,0 and fueling rely mostly on ATR and DLBTS (do not confuse with LBTS).
Setting fuel in LAMFA and LBTS only cause massive overfueling on longer pulls.

While what you say is true for BTS, it is not true for LAMFA.
LAMFA is a completely different path and the result is min(LAMFA,BTS), it is not additive.

LAMFA should be very much used for adjusting fueling at WOT for best power. It is by far the best map to do so.
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« Reply #2356 on: July 17, 2023, 02:57:19 AM »

While what you say is true for BTS, it is not true for LAMFA.
LAMFA is a completely different path and the result is min(LAMFA,BTS), it is not additive.

LAMFA should be very much used for adjusting fueling at WOT for best power. It is by far the best map to do so.

In this car there is massive dlamatr_w enrichment that is added to min(LAMFA, BTS).
So changing LAMFA without leaning ATR gives too much fuel.
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« Reply #2357 on: July 17, 2023, 05:06:13 AM »

In this car there is massive dlamatr_w enrichment that is added to min(LAMFA, BTS).
So changing LAMFA without leaning ATR gives too much fuel.
The richer LAMFA also calculates (or measures in case of real sensor) a lower exhaust gas temperature. So unless you go super rich on LAMFA it is not going to do too much.

For ATR to go super rich on these it's not so much LAMFA as just increasing load is enough, even with complete stock everything else.
If you do a pull on dyno with more boost it goes to 0.7 or something stupid.
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« Reply #2358 on: July 18, 2023, 04:37:46 AM »

Does anyone have ever done AL/NLS for a 2011 Volvo C30 T5? Or know someone who can do it professionally? I think that's an ME9 if I'm not mistaken. My friend has been bugging me to learn how to do it. Personally not my cup of tea so couldn't be bothered reading about it. He said he's willing to pay but I don't how the price on those go for. If you know or know anyone, feel free to shoot me a PM.
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« Reply #2359 on: July 18, 2023, 07:45:17 AM »

Does anyone have ever done AL/NLS for a 2011 Volvo C30 T5? Or know someone who can do it professionally? I think that's an ME9 if I'm not mistaken. My friend has been bugging me to learn how to do it. Personally not my cup of tea so couldn't be bothered reading about it. He said he's willing to pay but I don't how the price on those go for. If you know or know anyone, feel free to shoot me a PM.

Sent you a PM.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W9jndwA7XIJ-OZJo_v5IYWEW4ZwbNi6n/view?usp=drivesdk

My custom code activated via Cruise Control, includes launch control with adjustable RPM and also No Lift Shift Smiley
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« Reply #2360 on: July 20, 2023, 10:49:55 AM »

How do I approach logging on the P80 platform?
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« Reply #2361 on: July 20, 2023, 02:29:19 PM »

How do I approach logging on the P80 platform?

This is free:
https://github.com/prometey1982/VolvoTools/tree/master
This is free:
https://github.com/rlinewiz/OpenMoose
This is paid:
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_getting_started

Maybe there's something else available? I don't know.
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« Reply #2362 on: July 21, 2023, 03:30:03 AM »

This is free:
https://github.com/prometey1982/VolvoTools/tree/master
This is free:
https://github.com/rlinewiz/OpenMoose
This is paid:
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_getting_started

Maybe there's something else available? I don't know.

I appreciate this a lot!
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« Reply #2363 on: July 21, 2023, 06:23:30 AM »

I appreciate this a lot!

I suppose MY2000 is P80 or am I wrong?
I would need to edit the adresses before build. Is the bin which it is based on available?
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« Reply #2364 on: July 21, 2023, 08:39:27 AM »

You were linked 3 different systems. You then make a casual comment without referencing which one you are talking about.

I can only comment on the last system (since I made it), and that is pretty much plug and play.
For the others you will need some elbow grease. You get what you pay for.
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« Reply #2365 on: July 21, 2023, 08:47:18 PM »

More QHHJ... fixed more axis & added more maps mainly for 5120 and other stuff.... Smiley map packs are only useful for a few that know that theyre doing Wink

On another note, Im hoping to have one of my R's back together in the coming weeks... 2007 S60R, 2.4 T5 B5244T5, E85, 1300cc injectors, 71mm k24 hybrid, Audi RS4 Maf.... Stay tuned for file and results Smiley
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« Reply #2366 on: July 22, 2023, 12:05:50 AM »

I appreciate this a lot!

updated openmoose in my signature.
i've personally never done a p80 me7 car with it, but give it a shot. its an xml logger
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« Reply #2367 on: July 22, 2023, 06:40:23 AM »

Stock MIOP/MIRL load axis is up to 180. This is sufficient for 1.3bar tapering to 1,15 at redline. This is more then stock 16T is capable of so no need to change that on stock turbo.
Using the conversion formula from S4Wiki, load value 180 would result to approx. 1.1 Bar? Or maybe I'm just bad at math haha. I know it's not a direct relation to "boost", but it makes it easier to grasp the idea.


For ATR to go super rich on these it's not so much LAMFA as just increasing load is enough, even with complete stock everything else.
If you do a pull on dyno with more boost it goes to 0.7 or something stupid.
So just increasing the load limit will result in very rich mixture when on WOT, and adjusting LAMFA will not help much? If so, why so many people choose this method for a Stage 1 tune?
Also, the stock LAMFA of a 2000 T5R is like this:
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« Reply #2368 on: July 22, 2023, 12:28:29 PM »

So just increasing the load limit will result in very rich mixture when on WOT, and adjusting LAMFA will not help much? If so, why so many people choose this method for a Stage 1 tune?
Most likely ATR is turned off via codeword.
And if it isn't, then these "most people" you are referring to have no idea WTF they are doing Smiley
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« Reply #2369 on: July 23, 2023, 03:53:19 AM »

Using the conversion formula from S4Wiki, load value 180 would result to approx. 1.1 Bar? Or maybe I'm just bad at math haha. I know it's not a direct relation to "boost", but it makes it easier to grasp the idea.

Conversion from load->boost vary between engine sizes, factory calibration philosophy etc.
In your car 180 load is around 1,2 bar not 1,1 Smiley

Stock turbo is capable to do 180 load and maybe slightly above up to around 5000rpm in ideal conditions (cold weather) and with supporting mods like exhaust and IC. Then it will fall off regardless.
Simply speaking stock load axis is enough for stock turbo to make max power.

Of course 180 load may not be sufficient if you tune for diesel-like power curve with insane low-mid-range torque falling hard afterwards Smiley
Some people like to have car that fells/looks fast but is not Smiley
If you want to have faster car - put bigger turbo. Stock TD04HL-16T is week as fu** Smiley And do not put any stupid 19T or 21T or whatever hybrid. All those TD04 family turbos do is clog the exhaust Smiley
Any fun starts from TD05 or GT30 etc Smiley

2.3 engine bears 1,4-1,5bar. With proper turbo this gives 4xx+ HP and this is more or less when fun starts Smiley

Of course then you have to recalibrate MIOP/MIRL tables Smiley







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