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« Reply #2685 on: October 08, 2024, 10:10:06 PM »

Hello all. Have someone xml file for logging parameters for S60r tf80 EU? I think it 50wrhj72wra

brother karim, msg me on msger  lol
you have a wra70 variant tf80.

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« Reply #2686 on: October 10, 2024, 12:38:42 PM »

Thank you, Alex, will test tomorrow:) msg you
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« Reply #2687 on: October 17, 2024, 10:27:42 AM »

Hello everyone.  Wink I need help, maybe someone has the xdf file for 40LPHJ and xml for logging? I am attaching my bin file. This is not a stock file, it was already mapped before me 7 years ago. So best case is to save this file... Worstcase scenario which bin file i can safely crossflash? Tried to search for them, but with no success.
Also i am in progress swapping another engine, 2.3T5 block with Dual VVT head on it, so maybe i can flash with different bin more closer to this engine specs?  Roll Eyes
Thanks in advance.

Car is Volvo S80 2.5T MT 2004y EU
Mods:
-16T
-Front mount ic
-R injectors
-70mm freeflow exhaust
With this mods it made 236kw 480nm@3000rpm on the dyno.

EDIT:
Turns out that this tune is total garbage. Now I understand why my two engines cracked sleeves.
Will leave it here for reaseach purposes how not to do tunes Cheesy
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« Reply #2688 on: October 20, 2024, 03:00:10 PM »

Uhmmm, it's almost like the internet is not filled with threads that all the 83mm blocks will crack the sleeves above ~250hp or a bit more. No matter...what your tune is. Just look at factory S60R with no tunes.

You need to shim the block OR install Darton sleeves. 2.3T is a good choice, if you can, also shim that one, just in case. But those can hold 400+ hp without shim. But if you will swap heads, just shim it and be ready for 500+.
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« Reply #2689 on: October 21, 2024, 02:04:13 AM »

Uhmmm, it's almost like the internet is not filled with threads that all the 83mm blocks will crack the sleeves above ~250hp or a bit more. No matter...what your tune is. Just look at factory S60R with no tunes.

You need to shim the block OR install Darton sleeves. 2.3T is a good choice, if you can, also shim that one, just in case. But those can hold 400+ hp without shim. But if you will swap heads, just shim it and be ready for 500+.

Well I think the fact his tune is ignoring the max load map and purely running from high wastegate closure is the problem... Along with stock fueling. So yeah 21psi with stock fueling isn't going to end well.
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« Reply #2690 on: October 21, 2024, 09:15:39 AM »

I can assure you, that while a bad tune would only accelerate the failure, it is inevitable even with the best tune. The 83mm blocks must either be shimmed, re-sleeved, decked or avoided altogether.
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« Reply #2691 on: October 21, 2024, 01:11:01 PM »

Uhmmm, it's almost like the internet is not filled with threads that all the 83mm blocks will crack the sleeves above ~250hp or a bit more. No matter...what your tune is. Just look at factory S60R with no tunes.

You need to shim the block OR install Darton sleeves. 2.3T is a good choice, if you can, also shim that one, just in case. But those can hold 400+ hp without shim. But if you will swap heads, just shim it and be ready for 500+.

Always knew about weak points of this engines, but somehow gave a chance and hoped that it will last longer than 2 years and FYI my 2.5 block was shimmed. One of the problem was that i didn't check tune in the first place when bought car, but on the other hand in my country nobody wanted to tune volvo, everybody only knows how to deal with bmw's and vag's. So after I cracked sleeve I started digging and found this forum so with new engine will try to tune it myself.

Talking about new engine the block is already shimmed along with h-profile rods throwed in, just waitin for few other parts. Power goals are in the range of 400-450hp.
And in between shims or darton i also can put another mod...CLOSEDECK. Already tested on friends 650hp build, holds power flawlessly and is cheaper than installing dartons.
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« Reply #2692 on: October 21, 2024, 02:16:20 PM »

Go for it then. Usually if a block has developed a small crack, not easily visible, no shim will help there. It is slightly possible you just got a block with a very small crack that further developed over time OR it did happen with the shims. Either way, if you can deck it, go for it.
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« Reply #2693 on: October 25, 2024, 10:59:08 AM »

Thank you, Alex, will test tomorrow:) msg you
Nothing works fine for logging my car. Maybe someone have 50WRHJ-70WRA logging file?
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« Reply #2694 on: October 25, 2024, 12:52:17 PM »

Nothing works fine for logging my car. Maybe someone have 50WRHJ-70WRA logging file?

My logger has def on server for this.

Hello everyone.  Wink I need help, maybe someone has the xdf file for 40LPHJ and xml for logging?

And this too.

Btw going by the "a2l" numbers on newer cars does not work, because they all have the same value.
The thing you're calling 50WRHJ is 70195H9Z and the 40LPHJ is 70194L11.

If it has EPK in file then it's better to use that. The very old files did not have it, so there the ".a2l" name can be used to differentiate.
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« Reply #2695 on: October 26, 2024, 04:32:18 PM »

Are you sure? Can i just buy proper xlm?
I will receive .csv file after logging with your tool?
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« Reply #2696 on: October 26, 2024, 05:53:31 PM »

Are you sure? Can i just buy proper xlm?
I will receive .csv file after logging with your tool?
I don't sell any "xmls", the tool is a full stack solution, and yes it outputs logs in csv format.
You can either use it, or you can wait and hope that someone has reverse engineered your software and made an xml. Btw the server defs have 4500 loggable parameters on your software version.

I have the silver bullet solution, but it will never be free, because of the monetary investment of buying a2l's and software development.
It's a little like crowdsourcing - the logger provides full a2l based logging for a small fee without having to develop the software or buy a2l's for thousands of $ or sometimes tens of thousands.

Even for these really old ME7 and ME9 Volvos it's not easily possible to find an a2l for the later variants, and an OLS project gets you absolutely nowhere, because it does not have the memory cell data.
I mostly did the Volvo protocol because I was curious how the D2 communications stack works, and because I was able to get enough a2l data to have good coverage. Financially it's not really worth it because nobody is tuning these cars.
It's there on the platform though, and I charge the same for everything - whether it's an old Volvo or a new McLaren.
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« Reply #2697 on: October 27, 2024, 06:27:10 AM »

I don't sell any "xmls", the tool is a full stack solution, and yes it outputs logs in csv format.
You can either use it, or you can wait and hope that someone has reverse engineered your software and made an xml. Btw the server defs have 4500 loggable parameters on your software version.

I have the silver bullet solution, but it will never be free, because of the monetary investment of buying a2l's and software development.
It's a little like crowdsourcing - the logger provides full a2l based logging for a small fee without having to develop the software or buy a2l's for thousands of $ or sometimes tens of thousands.

Even for these really old ME7 and ME9 Volvos it's not easily possible to find an a2l for the later variants, and an OLS project gets you absolutely nowhere, because it does not have the memory cell data.
I mostly did the Volvo protocol because I was curious how the D2 communications stack works, and because I was able to get enough a2l data to have good coverage. Financially it's not really worth it because nobody is tuning these cars.
It's there on the platform though, and I charge the same for everything - whether it's an old Volvo or a new McLaren.
I looked to your tool. It’s really interesting and great work, but not actual for old Volvo as you said. I don’t think that anybody interested to pay 50-100$ every month for log old Volvo. Maybe i will try it, but it didn’t make no financial sense for those cars. That’s why i looking for xml.
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« Reply #2698 on: October 27, 2024, 07:26:24 PM »

I looked to your tool. It’s really interesting and great work, but not actual for old Volvo as you said. I don’t think that anybody interested to pay 50-100$ every month for log old Volvo.

I think you did not look in detail, because if you did you would have seen that it is a $100 single time payment, and you can log forever without paying a cent more (subscription + advanced license that never stops working even if subscription expires).
Pretty DIY friendly. Most professional tools require an upfront payment of several thousands and stop working as soon as the subscription expires.
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« Reply #2699 on: Yesterday at 10:04:20 AM »

40LPHJ
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