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« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2013, 09:22:41 PM »

Volvo guys, you need to start naming the binarys after software number and upload them in the stock bin section, it gets quite messy if one is to search for a specific software Smiley
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« Reply #106 on: July 09, 2013, 02:14:35 AM »

Volvo guys, you need to start naming the binarys after software number and upload them in the stock bin section, it gets quite messy if one is to search for a specific software Smiley

Cracking idea, the software number.  I assume you mean the referenced A2L?
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« Reply #107 on: July 09, 2013, 02:20:35 AM »

your file has blown my mind mark, it looks like a de-tuned euro R file, nothing i am used to seeing only USA tune files

edit : can you do me a favor and see what injectors your car has?

05> T5's definitely have blue and R engine minus 100cc.  They're a very capable tuning platform.  A number of S60R's that I know have the T5 block instead of the weaker R one.  Well, unless they've had their liners shimmed Smiley

Blues are 395cc and Greens 435cc IIRC.

Both engines have variable fuel pressure up-to 7 or 8 bar. so nozzles don't really matter, well the blues are good for 350BHP on the 05> T5 anyway.  That's what you generally see on those engine with a good map and FMIC.
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« Reply #108 on: July 09, 2013, 07:02:28 AM »

I can positively confirm that it has blue injectors.

350 hp with just an intercooler, that's rediculous! I don't think this lad needs it turning up that far though, his driving is already scary enough!

I shall post the binary in the other section when I get back to my desktop, apologies for littering them everywhere! Is the software number the code that WinOls displays at the top of the hex window?
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« Reply #109 on: July 09, 2013, 07:48:19 AM »

I can positively confirm that it has blue injectors.

350 hp with just an intercooler, that's rediculous! I don't think this lad needs it turning up that far though, his driving is already scary enough!

I shall post the binary in the other section when I get back to my desktop, apologies for littering them everywhere! Is the software number the code that WinOls displays at the top of the hex window?

it is under properties, and version i think
i opened yours up, the sw is 359462 on winols? hw part number 0261204559 which is confusing, because mine says the same, its probably inside the file somewhere

heres what is says for my 2004 p2R

                 1.0Vatlab VOLVO ID.                                ÄT03 P2X B5254RT ME 7.0.1 5XQK                                  B63250QK0000CODE1                   CDQKG                           P24/P26 ÄT03 B5254T4 25RT MAN AWD US                                    1.0Vatlab VOLVO NO.Volvo Cars Corporation  97564                                           50QKHJ.a2l      2007-11-01 07:26                    

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« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2013, 08:30:11 AM »

I get 359462 for my file, too.

Not sure about the hardware number though? The Bosch part number on the outside of the case is; 0261208289

This whole Injector thing has got me puddled now. Why would they tune for the different sized injectors through FKKVS? Surely you would adjust KRKTE first? May not be too bad of a thing though, I wonder if I could simply re use his old FKKVS in the S60R file?

What is it that blows your mind about this file in particular krazydbiker? The file comes from a manual ex-British-police issue 2005.5 V70 2.4 T5. When I was comparing the file with the S60R one posted by dream3R I kept noticing that a lot of the different maps were very flat, whereas the R's maps were more "normal" looking, if that makes sense? Almost as though originally it had a similar file to the R's, but had been turned down? I remember hearing one of these V70's in pursuit when I was younger, the thing sounded like a jet engine the turbo was running that hard! This one is almost silent. I wonder if the Police have them "de-mapped" once they are done with them, possibly so they stand a chance of catching people!

Possibly irrelevant, but when it is flat out (on the private runway we use for tinkering) it won't go much over 140mph. I don't know what they are meant to do, but it seems like it should be capable of more due to the revs not being too high? I can't remember the exact revs it does that at, but it isn't buzzing at the redline by a long shot. Maybe they are just really long geared in 6th? And maybe it looks worse as the speedo is a police issue properly calibrated one, so reads less than a normal one. Just thought I'd mention it!

I need my mate to open his wallet and buy a new AFM now, as his keeps throwing codes. Then I can get the LM-2 rigged up and have a tinker with it, see what the old girl can do!
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« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2013, 08:37:41 AM »

thats what blows my mind i guess, i did not know that this was an ex police car, maybe that makes sense, basically there is very little that needs to be done to that map to make it a lot more powerful, i have not checked max speed for that vehicle, i can when i get home later, but most of the volvo's are 155, depends on what tires that car comes with i think

as far as KRKTE, more testing needs to be done to ensure we have the right location, i need more time!, i would have thought krkte would be changed, but in the two possible locations, they are the same for your map, but fkkvs is way different

LDRXN is set very very mild in that map, but KFMIRL, and KFMIOP axis, and KFLDHBN, all support up to about 20 psi, which is just odd considering how low LDRXN is


this is what your file says inside of it

                         1.0Vatlab VOLVO ID.                                ÄT04 P2X B52X4XT ME7_500 5XGP                                   5BF050GP0000CODE1                   51GPPVD0                        sw:30771145AA P24/P26 ÄT04 B5244HT 24HT MAN FWD EU                      1.0Vatlab VOLVO NO.Volvo Cars Corporation  97564                                           50GPHJ.a2l      2005-05-13 07:54                         
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« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2013, 09:47:05 AM »

it is under properties, and version i think
i opened yours up, the sw is 359462 on winols? hw part number 0261204559 which is confusing, because mine says the same

As mentioned previously in this thread...

Keep in mind that Volvo (for some strange reason) sets the same HW and SW identifier in basically all their files regardless what the files actually are. Regardless what the file is, they most often state HW 0261204559 and SW 359462 in the files which can be very confusing.

Tricky indeed...  Smiley


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« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2013, 10:16:41 AM »

That sounds very promising, I may stick with his original file and work from there. Thank you for the information krazydbiker.

I have found a couple of 6 x 16 maps, which is what I believe LDRXN to be, but neither looks anything like a boost profile. Is there any chance of an address for what you have found?
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« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2013, 11:08:43 AM »

I'm sorry but the police car mapped thing is a myth lads, plain and simple.

I know someone who works for them, prepping cars and the such and have also owned and been in loads and they have the same maps that the non plod ones do.

When the T5' went facelift they basically took the R engine as mentioned, it's obvious that they just detuned the R file to 260BHP and adjusted the fuelling for the injectors.

Where are the maps you are looking at mark and I'll take a look?  Where in the UK are you BTW?
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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2013, 11:12:30 AM »

Is there any chance of an address for what you have found?

Have a look at adress "27EE2" (6 columns, 16 rows). I don't have WinOLS in front of me, just looking in a HEX-editor so I might be mistaken but it looks like what you are looking for (if you are working on the file called "Wills Original File").
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« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2013, 11:18:45 AM »

I'm sorry but the police car mapped thing is a myth lads, plain and simple.

Both "yes" and "no". Smiley
In Sweden Volvo sell "tuning kits" under a different brand (Polestar Performance) and these tuing kits (developed by Volvo though) are street legal and many police vehicles are equipped with these tuning kits. They are easy to spot as the license plates on the police vehicles are not hidden, and the Swedish Transport Agency keep the records for all vehicles (including police cars) open, so just type in the license plate number and they will tell you if the car has stock power or if it is tuned so... There are actually tuned police vehicles out there, at least in Sweden since a couple of years back.
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« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2013, 11:35:41 AM »

The Volvo's I've tuned (from a top speed perspective) have played some tricks on me. Speed limiter is 8 bit unsigned, i.e. FF equals 255 which corresponds to 255 km/h. For some strange reason, FF does limit the car (or at least in my cases) to just 255 km/h instead of "removing" the top speed limiter as such. I have not yet found any way aorund this, but setting all speed limiters (there are a few different ones in each file) makes the car stop accelerating at these speeds although I'm no way near rpm limiter and there is still a lot of power left in the engine.

Have a look at adress "27EE2" (6 columns, 16 rows). I don't have WinOLS in front of me, just looking in a HEX-editor so I might be mistaken but it looks like what you are looking for (if you are working on the file called "Wills Original File").


That's where I have mine, KFLDRX - Engine max. Last LDR
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« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2013, 11:36:42 AM »

Both "yes" and "no". Smiley
In Sweden Volvo sell "tuning kits" under a different brand (Polestar Performance) and these tuing kits (developed by Volvo though) are street legal and many police vehicles are equipped with these tuning kits. They are easy to spot as the license plates on the police vehicles are not hidden, and the Swedish Transport Agency keep the records for all vehicles (including police cars) open, so just type in the license plate number and they will tell you if the car has stock power or if it is tuned so... There are actually tuned police vehicles out there, at least in Sweden since a couple of years back.

Yeah, sorry I was speaking UK only, forgot I was on international forum Cheesy
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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2013, 11:41:03 AM »

I get 359462 for my file, too.

Not sure about the hardware number though? The Bosch part number on the outside of the case is; 0261208289

This whole Injector thing has got me puddled now. Why would they tune for the different sized injectors through FKKVS? Surely you would adjust KRKTE first? May not be too bad of a thing though, I wonder if I could simply re use his old FKKVS in the S60R file?

What is it that blows your mind about this file in particular krazydbiker? The file comes from a manual ex-British-police issue 2005.5 V70 2.4 T5. When I was comparing the file with the S60R one posted by dream3R I kept noticing that a lot of the different maps were very flat, whereas the R's maps were more "normal" looking, if that makes sense? Almost as though originally it had a similar file to the R's, but had been turned down? I remember hearing one of these V70's in pursuit when I was younger, the thing sounded like a jet engine the turbo was running that hard! This one is almost silent. I wonder if the Police have them "de-mapped" once they are done with them, possibly so they stand a chance of catching people!

Possibly irrelevant, but when it is flat out (on the private runway we use for tinkering) it won't go much over 140mph. I don't know what they are meant to do, but it seems like it should be capable of more due to the revs not being too high? I can't remember the exact revs it does that at, but it isn't buzzing at the redline by a long shot. Maybe they are just really long geared in 6th? And maybe it looks worse as the speedo is a police issue properly calibrated one, so reads less than a normal one. Just thought I'd mention it!

I need my mate to open his wallet and buy a new AFM now, as his keeps throwing codes. Then I can get the LM-2 rigged up and have a tinker with it, see what the old girl can do!

The M66 box in these is geared for 160+, somethings wrong at 140, I'd fix that before tuning.  They do need a few mile at those speeds lol.

Also these KKK turbos are running like .7 bar stock and can run up-to 1.4 bar without too much fuss.  The older cars used the smaller 16T or 15G.
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ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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