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« Reply #150 on: August 26, 2013, 06:40:01 AM »

Unfortunately I have left the office and am posting from my phone now, otherwise I'd have attached both the original and this revised ldrxn file. With hind sight I should have done that anyway!

I have uploaded it previously though if you are interested enough to search for it, it is somewhere around page 5 of this thread IIRC, and is also in the standard files section on this forum, listed as an ex police v70 file. I shall post it here again when back in the office though, so don't worry if you can't find it.

It sounds like I really need to find the LAMFA table then, richen up the WOT rows a bit.

The 13-14* ignition at 19psi, was that without the meth and on a standard cooler? What sort of IAT's did you see with that?

I am using an Innovate lm-2 to log, it plugs into the obd2 and also reads analogue voltages. I have a little connector I made for reading the standard map sensor voltages as I cannot find boost in the obd2 data stream. Works pretty well!

Charge temps are mad, I agree! Never seen them this high standard. They went up by about 2-3*c with the extra bit of boost. I have mentioned an intercooler and he is interested now he knows we can tinker with the ecu. Seems mad as the standard item isn't particularly small.

Another little observation from the log; With the original ldrxn I saw a peak aiflow of 220g/s at 6000rpm, with the s60r one I saw 240g/s in the same place.
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« Reply #151 on: August 26, 2013, 06:49:01 AM »

Here is a link to the original files thread;

 http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4252.0title=
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« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2013, 07:15:15 AM »

lol, this was all before meth, i was seeing very high intake temps, but i tend to just do short pulls with my car, it would max out around 140-145 F

i dont think i would track drive, or drag race like that before, on meth though even after a long 4th gear pull, i only see a max of 130, and no timing pull at all, even with increased timing and higher lambda
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« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2013, 07:18:21 AM »

I was seeing 70/158f on the track in my S60R 20 degrees ambient.  That was with water injection no meth, standard IC.

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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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« Reply #154 on: August 27, 2013, 03:46:46 AM »

In my experience, stock intercooler isn't working that well actually (as you have noticed yourselves). There are a few upgrade drop in replacement versions available for reasonable money (i.e. China stuff, but they do work better than stock) and here (Sweden) they cost about $300US (without temperature sensor fitting) and about $60US more with the sensor fitting for the R-models for instance.
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« Reply #155 on: August 27, 2013, 03:48:07 AM »

^ I've just fitted one of these, cost me about £300, made by KL-Racing.
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« Reply #156 on: August 27, 2013, 04:15:13 AM »

Kl-racing.se Intercooler = best bang for buck ;-)
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« Reply #157 on: August 27, 2013, 04:16:56 AM »

Kl-racing.se Intercooler = best bang for buck ;-)

Thank god for that!  Thought you were going to say it's s***t

I'm really impressed with the drop in AIT's, my caR pulls really hard now.

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« Reply #158 on: August 27, 2013, 04:39:51 AM »

Thank god for that!  Thought you were going to say it's s***t

They are not too bad actually. :-)

Also, don't just stare at the temperature after the intercooler. During calibration also measure temperarture before the intercooler (after the compressor). As soon as the temperature is leaving a linear behaviour vs boost increase (temperature starting to increase exponentially with boost) you have hit the choke area of the compressor and it's time to think about a larger compressor. :-)
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« Reply #159 on: August 27, 2013, 04:43:33 AM »

Interesting, how do you measure that variable?
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« Reply #160 on: August 27, 2013, 05:21:05 AM »

Interesting, how do you measure that variable?


Easy. Just go get yourself a temperature logger with a Type K sensor (it's just a millimeter in diamater with a wire) and loosen the hose slightly to the intercooler inlet, slide the sensor right in and tighten the clamp again.
It will cost you about $50US for a two channel version and that way you can keep track of temperature after IC as well at the same time.



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« Reply #161 on: August 27, 2013, 05:22:28 AM »

Thanks, a simple idea.
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« Reply #162 on: August 27, 2013, 05:24:13 AM »

Thanks, a simple idea.

Indeed, but a good tool for understanding when the compressor side of the turbo is working beyond its limit basically. The same tool (using a different sensor) can be used for EGT for instance. It's a setup I use a t least.
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« Reply #163 on: August 27, 2013, 05:29:10 AM »

Haha, I wasn't being funny, I was applaud you.  Sometimes I cannot see the wood for the trees as we say...

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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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« Reply #164 on: August 27, 2013, 05:41:14 AM »

Haha, I wasn't being funny, I was applaud you.  Sometimes I cannot see the wood for the trees as we say...

 Cheesy

Also, I have another piece of advice (from "learning by doing"  Grin ) and that is...

Please, monitor your oil temperature when passing 400 bhp's. That can also be done using the same logger basically if you want to. Just get yourself a new oil pan plug, drill a hole in it, make threads and fit a temperature sensor in it as well. My oil temperature increased beyond healthy limits when pushing more than 370 bhp's so I was forced to fit an additional oil cooler to get it back on track...

Good luck with the project!
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