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« Reply #660 on: October 18, 2015, 06:41:49 AM »

MPPS will do it in boot mode as per VAG.  Most Volvo's are not even wired to the OBD2 prt in the car.

I have a 2004 v70r, is this new enough for obd2 (in boot-mode) support?  Or bench flashing only?
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« Reply #661 on: October 18, 2015, 10:09:49 AM »

Why should boot mode work over OBD Port? You have to take out ECU for that, open it and in some cases do some solder. Also on VAG.


Boot mode on that Volvo will not work over OBD2, as said before.
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« Reply #662 on: October 20, 2015, 07:49:03 AM »

Most Volvo's are not even wired to the OBD2 prt in the car.

I'm not sure I quite follow U here.  Undecided Do You mean just K-line?
Programming in general using the OBD outlet is of course possible on Volvos :-)
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« Reply #663 on: October 21, 2015, 05:33:20 AM »

Can I read/write 2003 Volvo S60R ME7.0.1 300hp via NefMoto ECU Flashing Software using some compatible cable? I think OBD will not work, but what about boot mode on bench?
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« Reply #664 on: October 21, 2015, 08:42:49 AM »

The bootmode portion in nefmoto doesn't work.
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« Reply #665 on: October 21, 2015, 09:38:31 AM »

What a pity! Will search for another way. What about immo or something else in security? Can I have 2 separate ECUs? One on bench for play another one in car. Than when ready swap and try.
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« Reply #666 on: October 21, 2015, 11:18:31 AM »

You should be able to use Galletto to flash in boot mode.
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« Reply #667 on: October 21, 2015, 12:24:02 PM »

What a pity! Will search for another way.
http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Flashing_utilities

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« Reply #668 on: October 23, 2015, 01:26:48 PM »

I'm not sure I quite follow U here.  Undecided Do You mean just K-line?
Programming in general using the OBD outlet is of course possible on Volvos :-)


I know I helped to write a tool todo it Wink I meant to say kline isn't wired up.  Boot mode isn't operable with the ecu in the car.



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« Reply #669 on: December 07, 2015, 06:11:52 AM »

I've been following this thread for a while now, and a lot of great info is to be found here.
I'm working on the disassemblies of several bins I found scattered across the web.
I'm still learning c166 assembly in general, but coming from m44 (8051) it is doable.
From the first few 98-99 me7 ecu's to about early 2004 it all seems pretty similar.
After that it becomes more complicated and maps are harder to find.
There's no definition file of one of these later files available is there?

Does anyone know a little about the hardware differences between the volvo me7 ecu's of various periods?
So far I'm able to distinguish rougly 4 periods namely 98-99 512kb early me7, 2000-2002 with 1mb and a different immo.
2003 - 2004, different immo, different color pcb, and seemingly different eeprom, 2005+ very different file and a lot more can bus stuff.
I know that the can bus speed was bumped several times as well.
Am I right in thinking that a 2003 ecu cannot be used in a 2000 car for instance?
Also are there any hardware differences between manual & auto ecu's, or eu & us spec ecu's?

I'm also looking for a 170hp (125kw) file of a ~2002 s60 2.4 n/a.
It seems to be a direct upgrade for the 140 hp version, which has no difference in hardware.
Does anyone have this file?
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« Reply #670 on: December 07, 2015, 06:43:56 AM »

I've been following this thread for a while now, and a lot of great info is to be found here.
I'm working on the disassemblies of several bins I found scattered across the web.
I'm still learning c166 assembly in general, but coming from m44 (8051) it is doable.
From the first few 98-99 me7 ecu's to about early 2004 it all seems pretty similar.
After that it becomes more complicated and maps are harder to find.
There's no definition file of one of these later files available is there?

Does anyone know a little about the hardware differences between the volvo me7 ecu's of various periods?
So far I'm able to distinguish rougly 4 periods namely 98-99 512kb early me7, 2000-2002 with 1mb and a different immo.
2003 - 2004, different immo, different color pcb, and seemingly different eeprom, 2005+ very different file and a lot more can bus stuff.
I know that the can bus speed was bumped several times as well.
Am I right in thinking that a 2003 ecu cannot be used in a 2000 car for instance?
Also are there any hardware differences between manual & auto ecu's, or eu & us spec ecu's?

I'm also looking for a 170hp (125kw) file of a ~2002 s60 2.4 n/a.
It seems to be a direct upgrade for the 140 hp version, which has no difference in hardware.
Does anyone have this file?

The early cars a very simple me7 with 512kb flash, MY2000 it changed until MY2005+ when Volvo/Ford bought ME9 Wink

All are quite similar from an assembly point of view,  just once is more complex, as you imagine time passes and improvements are made etc.

I have only swapped like for like but have had 250k ECU's on the bench running 500 code no problems.

They also either changed the CPU speed or recoded the checksum calculation routine as it takes MUCH longer on the older cars...


There is no hardware differences between countries but may many different software versions and some of those are for differing hardware, for example MY2004 has the current BPS (post IC outlet) where MY2003 does not. (TB pipe)

Basically you really need to read the running car and tune that unless you KNOW that there is (or you have an updated software revision)

Something changed in M2007 also, never bothered to find out but different fuelling/pump/pem whatever.

Then you have revisions for different gearboxes (if an auto).


Fun!
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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #671 on: December 07, 2015, 07:41:22 AM »

Why should boot mode work over OBD Port? You have to take out ECU for that, open it and in some cases do some solder. Also on VAG.


Boot mode on that Volvo will not work over OBD2, as said before.

I've never soldered one just ground the flash chip leg (pin 24?) if you can't find a pad. Smiley
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Starting Rev's http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.msg51169#msg51169

noobs read this before asking http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9014.0title=


ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
ORIGINAL Datalogger (Freeware) Author
ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #672 on: December 07, 2015, 07:41:54 AM »

The 2.4L N/A is Denso ECU iirc. And only difference was throttle map thingy. It closed the throttle on high rpm to reduce HP.
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« Reply #673 on: January 15, 2016, 11:56:27 PM »

Anying playing?   I'm going to sell my R soon.

p.s.  Later Volvo's are a lot more Me9 than 7
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Starting Rev's http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.msg51169#msg51169

noobs read this before asking http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9014.0title=


ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #674 on: January 16, 2016, 05:51:14 AM »

all the R's i've had in have had cracked turbine housings and making 285bhp standard.
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