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« Reply #2355 on: July 22, 2023, 06:40:23 AM »

Stock MIOP/MIRL load axis is up to 180. This is sufficient for 1.3bar tapering to 1,15 at redline. This is more then stock 16T is capable of so no need to change that on stock turbo.
Using the conversion formula from S4Wiki, load value 180 would result to approx. 1.1 Bar? Or maybe I'm just bad at math haha. I know it's not a direct relation to "boost", but it makes it easier to grasp the idea.


For ATR to go super rich on these it's not so much LAMFA as just increasing load is enough, even with complete stock everything else.
If you do a pull on dyno with more boost it goes to 0.7 or something stupid.
So just increasing the load limit will result in very rich mixture when on WOT, and adjusting LAMFA will not help much? If so, why so many people choose this method for a Stage 1 tune?
Also, the stock LAMFA of a 2000 T5R is like this:
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« Reply #2356 on: July 22, 2023, 12:28:29 PM »

So just increasing the load limit will result in very rich mixture when on WOT, and adjusting LAMFA will not help much? If so, why so many people choose this method for a Stage 1 tune?
Most likely ATR is turned off via codeword.
And if it isn't, then these "most people" you are referring to have no idea WTF they are doing Smiley
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« Reply #2357 on: July 23, 2023, 03:53:19 AM »

Using the conversion formula from S4Wiki, load value 180 would result to approx. 1.1 Bar? Or maybe I'm just bad at math haha. I know it's not a direct relation to "boost", but it makes it easier to grasp the idea.

Conversion from load->boost vary between engine sizes, factory calibration philosophy etc.
In your car 180 load is around 1,2 bar not 1,1 Smiley

Stock turbo is capable to do 180 load and maybe slightly above up to around 5000rpm in ideal conditions (cold weather) and with supporting mods like exhaust and IC. Then it will fall off regardless.
Simply speaking stock load axis is enough for stock turbo to make max power.

Of course 180 load may not be sufficient if you tune for diesel-like power curve with insane low-mid-range torque falling hard afterwards Smiley
Some people like to have car that fells/looks fast but is not Smiley
If you want to have faster car - put bigger turbo. Stock TD04HL-16T is week as fu** Smiley And do not put any stupid 19T or 21T or whatever hybrid. All those TD04 family turbos do is clog the exhaust Smiley
Any fun starts from TD05 or GT30 etc Smiley

2.3 engine bears 1,4-1,5bar. With proper turbo this gives 4xx+ HP and this is more or less when fun starts Smiley

Of course then you have to recalibrate MIOP/MIRL tables Smiley







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« Reply #2358 on: July 23, 2023, 11:53:19 AM »

It's all about VE.

If your VE is for example 85% at some RPM them 180% load is 180/85 = 2,118 wich at bosch standart conditions is 2118mbar (25°C, 1010mbar atmosferic)

2118mbar at sea level is 1,128bar boost
2118mbar at 900mbar elevation pressure will be 1,218mbar

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« Reply #2359 on: July 23, 2023, 12:31:34 PM »

Does anyone know or have any tips on how to send custom CAN messages with ECU? Smiley
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« Reply #2360 on: July 23, 2023, 02:40:33 PM »

The easiest way is to repurpose a message that already exists in the ECU but that is disabled via CW_CAN_S.
That way everything is set up for you already, and you just need to splice code.

Otherwise the C167 reference manual is a good start, find out how the CAN is setup and add another message queue (if any are available).
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« Reply #2361 on: July 26, 2023, 11:21:04 AM »

has anyone any info about the 20FWHJ file? or if there is a more common file compatible?
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« Reply #2362 on: July 28, 2023, 02:42:09 PM »

No, CDTES for your file is at 0x18019

Hi, I changed CDTES 0x18019 from 1 to 0, but I still get the error P2405 ECM-436D, physically I have no EVAP pump, EU version.
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« Reply #2363 on: July 29, 2023, 03:34:32 AM »

I have same behaviour on idle on cold engine with lean burn. When I start moving with rotated wheels without touching the throttle revs sometimes drops and restores. I think it happens due to 2.4 engine with R flash. At least KISRM should be adjusted to different displacement. And maybe KFPRG and KFURL maps.

Have something same on 2.3 engine with R software. Mowe some maps from T5 2005 soft and recalculete KISRM. It helps.
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« Reply #2364 on: July 30, 2023, 05:38:57 AM »

Hi, I changed CDTES 0x18019 from 1 to 0, but I still get the error P2405 ECM-436D, physically I have no EVAP pump, EU version.
I can made what you need but not for free.
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« Reply #2365 on: July 30, 2023, 03:37:26 PM »

I can made what you need but not for free.

ok I understand, what is the price ?
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« Reply #2366 on: July 30, 2023, 11:29:14 PM »

ok I understand, what is the price ?
100$
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« Reply #2367 on: July 31, 2023, 01:38:23 PM »

100$

Is that subject to current exchange rates?
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« Reply #2368 on: July 31, 2023, 01:39:28 PM »

Hi, I changed CDTES 0x18019 from 1 to 0, but I still get the error P2405 ECM-436D, physically I have no EVAP pump, EU version.


wait so u just need an EU bin?
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« Reply #2369 on: July 31, 2023, 11:10:07 PM »

Is that subject to current exchange rates?
It's just the answer to author's question.
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